From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_MSGID autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,517611567e1815f2 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public From: Mitch@world.nospam Subject: Re: Java momentum slowing ? Date: 1999/05/10 Message-ID: <7h6icq$2165@drn.newsguy.com>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 476159952 References: <372b0ec7.28153993@news2.ibm.net> <3728E60E.F789FD8@uq.net.au> <37299369.83779478@news2.ibm.net> <7gdlca$2j5l@drn.newsguy.com> <372f0ed9.104817048@news2.ibm.net> <7ghad5$1mma@drn.newsguy.com> <372d6106.5099983@news2.ibm.net> <7gsk7k$5fr@dfw-ixnews5.ix.netcom.com> <37333a43.181207462@news.mindspring.com> <7h399g$4nb@drn.newsguy.com> <7h694a$cnv$1@cf01.edf.fr> Organization: Newsguy News Service [http://www.newsguy.com] Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Date: 1999-05-10T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: In article <7h694a$cnv$1@cf01.edf.fr>, "Pascal says... >No. You are right. But it depends what you are thinking when you say >"standard". Java is not a standard either. But here is not my point. For >graphical stuff we have some very good and fast growing technologies : >Tk/Tcl and GTK both are cross-plateforms are very cost effective >in terms of developpement, are very well designed. > compared to Java SWING, they are a toy. You really can't be serious to compare what you can do with Swing compared to tcl/tk, are you? >Also, keep in mind that the most important GUI today is the browser ! > really? tell us then how well you design a full GUI with pull down menus, file dialogs, tree structures, wizards, drag/drop, 2D, 3D, animation, etc.. with just HTML tags in a browser? >In this respect Ada is (as all others languages) just fine. In CGI mode >you just have to output some HTML, XML, CSS... infos. > you are confusing presentation of static data, with having an interactive user interface. The ability to have powerfull GUI that is portable is very important. right now, there are win32, Swing, and the rest lesser able technologies such as gtk, qt, tcl/tk and the rest. Java offers the best solution as it is portable, very rich in functionality and well defined and dcoumented, and full support in the industry from every one, expect MS of course, since it is not in the interest of MS for Java to successed. But Java is by all account a success so far and continues to improve. best, Mitch.