From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_05,INVALID_MSGID, LOTS_OF_MONEY autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,517611567e1815f2 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public From: Mike@spam_free Subject: Re: Java momentum slowing ? Date: 1999/05/01 Message-ID: <7ggi1v$p2i@drn.newsguy.com>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 473078311 References: <372b0ec7.28153993@news2.ibm.net> <37289A2C.4B78EB60@rocketmail.com> <7gesv8$1bol@drn.newsguy.com> <372BB93F.7DCFD2E1@rocketmail.com> Organization: Newsguy News Service [http://www.newsguy.com] Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Date: 1999-05-01T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: In article <372BB93F.7DCFD2E1@rocketmail.com>, Corey says... > >I think you're burying your head in the sand if you don't recognize that >M$ is and will continue to be a force to reckon with in the software >world. If MS shoddy software is a force in the software world, I feel now more sorry for the software world in what it has put itself into. I can recongnize that M$ software is used in many places, but I don't have to follow the crowds blindly as many seem to do, and I don't have to be one of those windows generation programmers. I've have developed software for few companies in the last 3 years, and I am proud to say I have not needed to write one single line of code on windows. (That does not mean I do not know windows, I do, and I have programmed on it before, and that is why I decided to get away from it, I did not like it at all). All my work in the last 3 years has been on Unix. And thanks to Java now, I'll never need to touch windows for any reason again. I really have no idea what do people use windows for (other than games), as Unix and Linux has everything anyone wants, and in much better quality, and with GNU/linux, I get the source code also, and now with Java being used more and more, it even removes the need for windows all together. At number of places where I worked, we use Solaris and now Linux starting to show up more, at home I use Linux. I write everything from database applications, to GUI, to transaction processing to network management software, all on Unix and Linux and with Java and C/C++, and even some Ada (thanks to GNAT being on Unix). Why why would any one choose windows, a flaky and closed OS, with licenses restrictions, and higher costs, over an open system like Unix for developing applications on is beyond my comprehension. I can see the general public choosing windows out of ignorance of the alternatives, but I am amazed when I see technical pepole, managers, and software engineers who should know better choosing windows to develop software on. May be some of us have their head buried, but we love where it is buried and for me, it does not seem to have affected me in any way. I tell any new hiring manager that I do not do windows, only Unix, and I am more busy than ever, last year alone I made $400,000 in just contract programming fees :) (I have been programming for 16 years now) and again, never touched one windoz box, (well, I did touch them, but I do not program on them). and I will never do. regards, Mike. a windows liberated programmer and loving it.