From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,fef3ad775ef4b0b7 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,domainid0,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: g2news2.google.com!postnews.google.com!i18g2000prf.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail From: Marco Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Ada for 1st year students Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 12:36:49 -0700 (PDT) Organization: http://groups.google.com Message-ID: <7e002aa1-59cb-438b-af58-9227a4ecf7b6@i18g2000prf.googlegroups.com> References: <60e0c5f0-1e17-4add-b21e-b1ef622d5233@v13g2000pro.googlegroups.com> <67e0151c-ecdb-4a7a-b36b-6853f78e72df@b1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 68.63.182.214 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1224963409 28770 127.0.0.1 (25 Oct 2008 19:36:49 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 19:36:49 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: i18g2000prf.googlegroups.com; posting-host=68.63.182.214; posting-account=WITAxQkAAAAHjnLda9Lofpqp8mERTWL4 User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.8.1.17) Gecko/20080829 Firefox/2.0.0.17,gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe) Xref: g2news2.google.com comp.lang.ada:8222 Date: 2008-10-25T12:36:49-07:00 List-Id: On Oct 22, 6:33 am, "Larry A Barowski" wrote: > "Peter Hermann" wrote in message > > news:gdki93$hvc$1@infosun2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de... > > > amado.al...@gmail.com wrote: > >> My bug is the 'j' in "jGRASP" :-( > > > grasp has degraded to a java company since before November 2003 > > We are a university research group, not a company. Our "market" is > mainly education. If another language comes to dominate education > (or if someone will fund development for another language), then we > will change our focus. > > But the "j" was added when jGRASP came to be written in Java > (previously it was C/C++), and before the focus on Java-related > features. We used to use the older GRASP version on Solaris boxes back in the mid to late 90's with our VADS compilers. It was nice to have a Ada "visual" editor without resorting to expensive APEX. The new hires couldn't deal with vi or emacs :) thanks in retrospect But I do think adding the "j" to the name was a mistake, most folks don't care what a program is written in (unless it is too slow). At the time, it seemed like Ada was being abandoned for the upstart Java. We never really liked the Java based version, because at the time, it seemed a little slow.