From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: a07f3367d7,954655e6ccab4ebb X-Google-Attributes: gida07f3367d7,public,usenet X-Google-NewGroupId: yes X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII Path: g2news2.google.com!postnews.google.com!p18g2000pra.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail From: rodakay@tpg.com.au Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Lego Mindstoms for Ada: user group Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 06:22:49 -0700 (PDT) Organization: http://groups.google.com Message-ID: <7d76346b-61d4-47e1-9ad3-9c6eaf3ff0ae@p18g2000pra.googlegroups.com> References: <069be29a-c0cc-40eb-855a-b94dea5bd04f@j9g2000prh.googlegroups.com> <8763e44wk1.fsf@nbi.dk> <59a63a21-d65c-4915-9c66-08288e8dd148@t13g2000yqt.googlegroups.com> <9a868e2f-4cb7-41b4-8e43-c9a1f061d374@m11g2000yqh.googlegroups.com> <9ce025c8-1c3a-46e1-808c-150185e819ed@g31g2000yqc.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 115.64.122.85 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: posting.google.com 1247059370 13374 127.0.0.1 (8 Jul 2009 13:22:50 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 13:22:50 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: p18g2000pra.googlegroups.com; posting-host=115.64.122.85; posting-account=khAkjwoAAAAgJZLTZqALQ8o9v2NoaqOb User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.0.11) Gecko/2009060309 Ubuntu/9.04 (jaunty) Firefox/3.0.11,gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe) Xref: g2news2.google.com comp.lang.ada:6908 Date: 2009-07-08T06:22:49-07:00 List-Id: On Jul 8, 11:01=A0pm, Ludovic Brenta wrote: > > I don't like IRC; there are too many problems with it. > > Since there are no archives and no subject lines, one cannot later > search for an answer. =A0So I am not inclined to give advice there, > knowing whatever I say will be lost. =A0Also, newbies are bound to ask > the same question over and over. =A0The correct answer, of course, is > "search comp.lang.ada" :) > > The second problem is that, because it is so informal, people tend not > to think their questions through; it takes several iterations before > we can even understand the question. =A0The great quality of Ada is that > it forces the programmer to say what they mean, i.e. think twice. > This benefit disappears on IRC. =A0In contrast, as you can see, people > post meaningful, well-constructed questions here daily. I agree. These points show the 'pro's of a formal forum. Yet some people also can benefit from the 'hands-on' and rapid irc atmosphere. > My conclusion: informal questions belong in a searchable newsgroup and > tutorials should go on a Wiki (perhaps a new chapter about Lego > Mindstorms in the Ada Programming wikibook?) Some sort of FAQ and Tutorials webpage (Wiki or Wikibook) would be marvellous. regards.