From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: a07f3367d7,3ef3e78eacf6f938 X-Google-Attributes: gida07f3367d7,public,usenet X-Google-NewGroupId: yes X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: g2news2.google.com!news2.google.com!news.glorb.com!de-l.enfer-du-nord.net!usenet-fr.net!ircam.fr!freenix!feeder1-2.proxad.net!proxad.net!feeder2-2.proxad.net!cleanfeed4-a.proxad.net!nnrp1-2.free.fr!not-for-mail Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Alternatives to C: ObjectPascal, Eiffel, Ada or Modula-3? Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwAQMAAABtzGvEAAAABlBMVEUAAAD///+l2Z/dAAAA oElEQVR4nK3OsRHCMAwF0O8YQufUNIQRGIAja9CxSA55AxZgFO4coMgYrEDDQZWPIlNAjwq9 033pbOBPtbXuB6PKNBn5gZkhGa86Z4x2wE67O+06WxGD/HCOGR0deY3f9Ijwwt7rNGNf6Oac l/GuZTF1wFGKiYYHKSFAkjIo1b6sCYS1sVmFhhhahKQssRjRT90ITWUk6vvK3RsPGs+M1RuR mV+hO/VvFAAAAABJRU5ErkJggg== X-Accept-Language: fr, es, en X-Disabled: X-No-Archive: no References: <2009a75f-63e7-485e-9d9f-955e456578ed@v37g2000prg.googlegroups.com> From: pjb@informatimago.com (Pascal J. Bourguignon) Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 16:35:22 +0200 Message-ID: <7c1vnzsgk5.fsf@pbourguignon.anevia.com> Organization: Anevia SAS User-Agent: Gnus/5.101 (Gnus v5.10.10) Emacs/22.2 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:ODgyYzVmMTBmZDAxZGEyNWM4NzQ3ZDYwNjZiMzI1YjY0ZWVlNWVlOQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii NNTP-Posting-Date: 29 Jul 2009 16:35:25 MEST NNTP-Posting-Host: 88.170.236.224 X-Trace: 1248878125 news-2.free.fr 428 88.170.236.224:48858 X-Complaints-To: abuse@proxad.net Xref: g2news2.google.com comp.lang.ada:7401 Date: 2009-07-29T16:35:25+02:00 List-Id: learn2code@yourdesk.com writes: > ["Followup-To:" header set to comp.lang.ada.] > On 2009-07-29, Oxide Scrubber wrote: >> What utter balderdash. You make GC sound like training wheels >> when in fact it is very useful even for major production-code systems. > > No, it's not useful or even necessary at all unless you have a virtual > machine or other runtime. I work on large systems and we write all our code > in assembler. We don't have GC, we just know how to code. Simple is good for > performance, for readability, and for just about everything else. That's > another reason I like Ada, at least through the 95 version. > > I would hate to see the "major production-code system" that relied on GC. I > can tell you this with certainty, no bank, insurance company, airline, or > any other online realtime operation uses such nonsense. That sentence is false. ITA Software http://itasoftware.com/ has at least one airline company using their products and they're written in Common Lisp including a garbage collector. There are insurance companies (and banks, but I know specifically of an insurance company) that use Smalltalk (they periodically hire Smalltalk programmers in France), which of course works with a garbage collector. -- __Pascal Bourguignon__