From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_MSGID autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,ed45459060d00f87 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public From: kevin@nospamworld.com Subject: Re: Ada jobs & Programming: Art or Science? [was: MN] Date: 1999/02/16 Message-ID: <7acbfk$c0t@drn.newsguy.com>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 445047207 References: <79scn2$k04@drn.newsguy.com> <36c25c45.0@news.pacifier.com> <79v9f4$fe$1@remarq.com> <79vd9b$45k$1@remarQ.com> <7a1eir$6oe$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> <36C8A705.597D432A@planet8.tds-eagan.lmco.com> <7aablt$qqt@drn.newsguy.com> <36C99BDF.BF0FA38F@mediaone.net> Organization: Newsguy News Service [http://www.newsguy.com] Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Date: 1999-02-16T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: In article <36C99BDF.BF0FA38F@mediaone.net>, Alan says... > > > >not nearly the most important part of developing software. >Experience has shown (and I recommend you to Brooks' _The Mythical Man-Month_) >that the best coders cannot write reliable software if there is a bad > architecture or design, and Well, offcourse the software will be bad if the design is bad. (do you need to read a book to know that?) Also, there is no such things as 'coders' There is one thing. a programmer. A good programmer does everything. good design. good code. good testing. good debugging. and good gathering of requirements offcourse before everything. This 'design' vs. 'coding' is an artificial or managerial view of the real world. One can't just hit the keyboard without knowing what there are doing. if they do, then they are bad programmers. nothing else. So, get off this 'coder' vs. 'designer' mentality. This is only created by those who have little clue about what software is all about. (Like authors of books on 'software engineering' who could not write a 2-lines program if their live depended on it) Kevin.