From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_MSGID autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 115aec,1ed0256a033d0951 X-Google-Attributes: gid115aec,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,2718f787c2b4b9b7,start X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public From: "Pat Rogers" Subject: Re: Justifying Development tools Date: 1999/02/15 Message-ID: <7aa99i$hdc$1@remarQ.com>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 444742997 References: <01be5860$b1b0a0c0$32f23ccf@LittleFoot> <36c85659.0@news.pacifier.com> <7aa64c$m32$1@cascade.cs.ubc.ca> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 X-Complaints-To: newsabuse@remarQ.com X-Trace: 919119986 Y6JRGRJUHDE25C640C usenet80.supernews.com Organization: Software Arts & Sciences Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada,comp.realtime Date: 1999-02-15T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: Donald Gillies wrote in message <7aa64c$m32$1@cascade.cs.ubc.ca>... >>In article <36c85659.0@news.pacifier.com>, "Steve Doiel" >> wrote: > >>> If you're really interested in things like the cost of errors and the cost >>> after shipment, >>> read the paper by Stephen F. Zeigler, Ph.D. comparing the cost of Ada and C >>> development >>> >>> http://www.rational.com/sitewide/support/whitepapers/dynamic.jtmpl?doc _key=337 > >IMHO, this article is spam science. > >You don't run a retroactive experiment with 7 variables and then try >to correct for each variable independently, using ad-hoc ideas. A >good experiment has a "design" with just one or two variables and all >other things are held constant. > >A good experiment is designed using something called "statistics" >which seems completely unfathomable to the average software >engineering computer scientist. In particular, without looking at >confidence intervals and many indepedent trials (does this guy >understand what is the meaning of "independent trials" ???), you are >doing nothing but promoting heresay, and we have enough newspapermen >in the country doing this already... What experiment are you referring to? My recollection is that the author makes conclusions based upon historical data.