From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,27539c823b51b306 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-08-20 15:01:41 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!newsfeed.google.com!sn-xit-02!supernews.com!newsfeed.direct.ca!look.ca!newshub2.rdc1.sfba.home.com!news.home.com!news2.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "McDoobie" Subject: Re: Ada vendors and the art of selling used cars Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada References: <3b7fdb8a_2@news3.prserv.net> User-Agent: Pan/0.8.1beta4 (Unix) X-No-Productlinks: Yes Message-ID: <7Nfg7.47318$K6.18192309@news2> Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 22:01:39 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.0.109.49 X-Complaints-To: abuse@home.net X-Trace: news2 998344899 24.0.109.49 (Mon, 20 Aug 2001 15:01:39 PDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 15:01:39 PDT Organization: Excite@Home - The Leader in Broadband http://home.com/faster Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:12151 Date: 2001-08-20T22:01:39+00:00 List-Id: In article , Reivilo Snuved wrote: > "McDoobie" writes: > [snip] >> >> I'm checking around for a good Ada development environment, and I >> wouldnt mind picking up a copy of GNAT Pro or the Aonix toolchain. But >> "contact our sales rep" is irritating as hell. > > NOTE : I am posting this message on behalf of Greg Gicca, Director of > Product > Management with Aonix (his newsserver is currently down) > > Chris, > > We at Aonix have specific published prices and discount policies that > can not be varied from by a sales person or other employee without > approval from a VP or higher. We do not publish prices due to legal and > country reasons. The legal aspects tend to be that any price published > is only valid when published and can change at any time. Thus publishing > it in a public forum puts out prices that could be misleading. Also a > price for a particular country may have adjustments due to shipping or > other concerns. Secondly our prices for a particular currency are based > on the exchange rate at the time of sale (quote). Our fixed price > schedule is based on US dollars (we have to pick one currency). The > daily price in French Francs, or even the Euro will vary. > > When Aonix produces a quote for a particular product or set of products > it is very common for the purchasing agency to ask for the relevant > pages from our product catalog that list these prices, and discount > policies. We can not vary from the prices or policies as stated above. > We in fact "never" want to be the position of having one representative > quote a different price from another company representative, regardless > of geographic region or country location > (taking into account specific country differences, currency, etc.) > > Any price quote you thus receive from Aonix from one individual will be > the same quote you would get from any other. Used car type pricing > tactics are against our (and most other) Ada company policies. If you > ask us for a price for a product it will be that published in our > product catalog. If you ask for discount policies it will also be that > published in the product catalog and will clearly show that a larger > quantity purchase would save money on per product costs. > > The one exception to our publishing prices is the ObjectAda Special > Edition product. It is published as being for free as a download from > or web site, at: > > http://www.aonix.com > > > Sincerely, > > Greg Gicca Aonix Director of Product Management > > adamark@sd.aonix.no.spam.com Wow. You really gotta jump through hoops on price issue. Now that I understand the reasoning behind this, it doesnt seem so annoying. Normally I plan in advance what tools I'm gonna buy, then I save up the money and pay for it in cash or through a debit card.(Learned my lesson about credit cards.) The reason being is this...There are plenty of good and honest salespeople out there. And I hate calling up the salesperson and putting them through all the hassle of getting a price quote , and them expecting a sale, when I'm not even certain I'm gonna buy the thing. It makes for an unpleasant experience for both people. It's much simpler when I know how much money I need to put together, then I call the sales rep and say "I wanna buy product X. Heres the dough. Pleasure doing business with ya. Talk to you again sometime." However...I suppose I could contact a sales rep. Suppose I'll give it a shot. Thanks. McDoobie chris@dont.spam.me