From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,8623fab5750cd6aa X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public Path: g2news1.google.com!news1.google.com!news.glorb.com!cyclone.bc.net!news.uunet.ca!nf3.bellglobal.com!nf1.bellglobal.com!nf2.bellglobal.com!news20.bellglobal.com.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Warren W. Gay VE3WWG" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Improving Ada's image - Was: 7E7 Flight Controls Electronics References: <40b9c99e$0$268$edfadb0f@dread16.news.tele.dk> <40ba315a$0$254$edfadb0f@dread16.news.tele.dk> <04udnR-eHNChzSbdRVn-vw@gbronline.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <7J0xc.7371$8k4.269106@news20.bellglobal.com> Date: Mon, 07 Jun 2004 12:29:56 -0400 NNTP-Posting-Host: 198.96.223.163 X-Complaints-To: abuse@sympatico.ca X-Trace: news20.bellglobal.com 1086625731 198.96.223.163 (Mon, 07 Jun 2004 12:28:51 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 07 Jun 2004 12:28:51 EDT Organization: Bell Sympatico Xref: g2news1.google.com comp.lang.ada:1193 Date: 2004-06-07T12:29:56-04:00 List-Id: Hyman Rosen wrote: > Wes Groleau wrote: >> Richard Riehle wrote: >>> At this point, Ada ..... must survive ..... the inane criticism of >>> those >>> who have never written a seropus system in the language. >> >> And a large subset of that is the inane criticism of those >> who have never written a serious system in any language. > > But notice that C, which is so widely derided in the Ada community, > has been used to produce Linux, a stable, portable, efficient, and > high-quality operating system But this begs the question "stable, ... high-quality compared to what?" Do we have Ada operating systems to make a fair comparison with? Don't get me wrong - I am a fan of *NIX/Linux, but I wouldn't go as far as to say that they couldn't be more stable, portable, efficient and higher-quality than present. Looking at the weekly list of Linux vulnerability/patches that come out for security issues, suggests that improvements in this area are possible and desirable. > which is maintained by a host of > programmers. Too often, the pro-Ada argument of "you can do it > faster and better" turns into the anti-C bash of "you can't do it at > all", and too many people know better than to buy that. Perhaps, but this doesn't change the underlying fundamentals to the position ;-) -- Warren W. Gay VE3WWG http://home.cogeco.ca/~ve3wwg