From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 1108a1,59ec73856b699922 X-Google-Attributes: gid1108a1,public X-Google-Thread: fdb77,5f529c91be2ac930 X-Google-Attributes: gidfdb77,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,583275b6950bf4e6 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Thread: 11232c,59ec73856b699922 X-Google-Attributes: gid11232c,public X-Google-Thread: f43e6,899fc98b2883af4a X-Google-Attributes: gidf43e6,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2003-05-14 23:43:16 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!cyclone.bc.net!newspump.monmouth.com!newspeer.monmouth.com!newsfeed!wn13feed!wn12feed!worldnet.att.net!204.127.198.203!attbi_feed3!attbi_feed4!attbi.com!sccrnsc04.POSTED!not-for-mail From: tmoran@acm.org Newsgroups: comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.object,comp.lang.ada,misc.misc,comp.software-eng Subject: Re: Quality systems (Was: Using Ada for device drivers? (Was: the Ada mandate, and why it collapsed and died)) References: <9fa75d42.0305141747.5680c577@posting.google.com> X-Newsreader: Tom's custom newsreader Message-ID: <7GGwa.849701$F1.107635@sccrnsc04> NNTP-Posting-Host: 12.234.13.56 X-Complaints-To: abuse@attbi.com X-Trace: sccrnsc04 1052980995 12.234.13.56 (Thu, 15 May 2003 06:43:15 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 06:43:15 GMT Organization: AT&T Broadband Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 06:43:15 GMT Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.java.advocacy:63830 comp.object:63422 comp.lang.ada:37340 misc.misc:14192 comp.software-eng:19193 Date: 2003-05-15T06:43:15+00:00 List-Id: > In the early days of PCs, people > had to often write many things from scratch, and address > CGA and VGA and whatnot cards, and draw pixels, and interface > to telephony cards... All that would have been practically > impossible in Ada. Having done each of those things with both Ada and C, I'm curious why you could possibly think they were any harder in Ada, much less "practically impossible". I have an especially pleasant memory of moving a largish, graphics intensive DOS program, written in Ada, to the Macintosh, in two days. You may recall DOS graphics and Macintosh graphics were somewhat dissimliar at the OS level.