From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_MSGID autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,d275ffeffdf83655 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public From: dewar@gnat.com Subject: Re: EMACS Ada Mode Maintenance Date: 1999/02/05 Message-ID: <79fmss$g45$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 441112585 References: <78kk11$qmd$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> <78ks1t$253$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> <36affcb4.14065782@news.geccs.gecm.com> <36B1F27A.6762@gecm.com> <78tm5g$kb1$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> <36b7695a.2630918@news.geccs.gecm.com> <873e4oqtz1.fsf@mihalis.ix.netcom.com> <36b89f98.2045516@news.demon.co.uk> <874sp34287.fsf@mihalis.ix.netcom.com> <36B9DA0A.40D0@gecm.com> <79c9b2$h3j$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> <36b9f769.3385631@news.demon.co.uk> X-Http-Proxy: 1.0 x13.dejanews.com:80 (Squid/1.1.22) for client 205.232.38.14 Organization: Deja News - The Leader in Internet Discussion X-Article-Creation-Date: Fri Feb 05 21:13:09 1999 GMT Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada X-Http-User-Agent: Mozilla/4.04 [en] (OS/2; I) Date: 1999-02-05T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: In article <36b9f769.3385631@news.demon.co.uk>, john@assen.demon.co.uk.nospam (John McCabe) wrote: > dewar@gnat.com wrote: > Although I would stand by such a statement, mainly with > respect to new features, there is a subtlety in this > quote in that it doesn't state anywhere that general > features of currently available GNU software should be > removed and replaced with product specific code (I refer > in particular of course to the use of gnatstub in > ada-make-body). If you want to know Richard Stallman's position here, it is that any change to Ada mode should be evaluated ONLY with respect to its effect on the users of GNU software. He objects to any effort or consideration being given to users of non-free software, so if you ask for a policy decision here from the "official" source, you will in fact get a rather definite view along these lines. In this particular case, the issue is entirely whether the stub facility is improved with respect to its use with GNAT. This does not stop someone developing other code that uses some other approach usable with another compiler, and if this is also useful with GNAT, does not impede its inclusion in the official Ada mode. In this particular case, it seemed clear that the change to using gnatstub improves the behavior of this feature in the GNU system, and that therefore the change is beneficial to users of the GNU system. This is, always has been, and will continue to be, the primary criterion by which changes to GNU software are judged by the FSF. You sale that Rolf was reluctant to make changes that were GNAT specific. In fact I suspect that if Richard Stallman had know this, he might not have been very happy with the situation. But as I said in my last note, in practice, overall, I think everyone, even those not using GNAT, will find that having someone able to work on Ada mode who is fully supported rather than doing it on a volunteer basis will work out very well. I suggest everyone watch and see how this works over the next few months, and withold judgments till we have that experience. Robert Dewar Ada Core Technologies -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own