From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_MSGID autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,1479b753518e2325 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public From: "news.oxy.com" Subject: Re: how to make Ada more popular? Date: 1999/02/03 Message-ID: <799sej$n0r$1@remarQ.com>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 440224558 References: <787hk5$q6t@drn.newsguy.com> <36B85BE9.4CD7@Entenhausen.net> <36B864EC.73D8@mchugh.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 X-Complaints-To: newsabuse@remarQ.com X-Trace: 918058259 HXI3FRZSOA57FC7F8C usenet80.supernews.com Organization: Posted via RemarQ, http://www.remarQ.com - Discussions start here! Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Date: 1999-02-03T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: This is exactly what I was telling almost in each my post to this forum. But some people (from which Ada future much depends on) are telling that there is nothing new in that ideas and doing nothing regarding this issue. To be very good language itself is not enough to put through its way in the programming industry. This is only platform for creating building blocks and tools that can be used by many other programmers. Probably this idea should be felt as something more sensible by many more people to start materializing itself into something solid. Regards, Vladimir Olensky (vladimir_olensky@yahoo.com) (Vladimir_Olensky@oxy.com) Telecommunication specialist, Occidental C.I.S. Service, Inc. ( www.oxy.com ) Moscow, Russia. Andrzej Lewandowski wrote in message <36B864EC.73D8@mchugh.com>... >Donald Duck wrote: >> >> I think that people doesn't change to ADA if they see working ADA apps. >> I think what they really need are ADA headlines in the magazines. They >> must find ADA headlines always when they open a magazin. > > >People will not switch to Ada unless the following (necessary but not >sufficient) happens: > >1. There will be Ada IDE similar to Delphi or VB front-end (actually, >ObjectAda is pretty close), > Also CLAW from RR Software. >2. There will be a GUI builder that will make it possible to use >3-rd party ActiveX controls, > >3. There will be easy to use infrastructure for building ActiveX >controls and COM objects (as easy as Delphi or VB), > >4. There will be easy to use interface to databases (such as MS ADO), > >5. Environment will be available in 3 versions: standard for $100, >professional for $250 and enterprise for $2000, and their respective >features will match features of similar Delphi or VB versions, > >6. Nicely designed boxes with standard and professional versions will >be available in CompUSA and CircuitCity, as well as will be >mentioned on Programmer's Paradise, Programmers's Shop and >Egghead's web pages, > >7. Ada products will be advertised in every issue of Dr. Dobbs Journal, >C++ >Report, Java Report, etc., > >8. Headhunters and recruiters will learn what is Ada and will have a >nice pool >of experienced and not very expensive (say, not more expensive than >Smalltalk) >developers, > >9. Companies manufacturing Ada compilers and tools will make it clear >and >convincing that they are in good financial health, will stay in business >for next 5 years and will continue providing support for their products. > >If not, Ada will stay where it is now. > >A.L.