From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: a07f3367d7,7c1ca6be7961c074,start X-Google-Attributes: gida07f3367d7,public,usenet X-Google-NewGroupId: yes X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: g2news2.google.com!news1.google.com!news.glorb.com!feeder.erje.net!newsfeed.straub-nv.de!news-1.dfn.de!news.dfn.de!news.uni-jena.de!news1.uni-leipzig.de!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: "Alex R. Mosteo" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: OT?: AF 447 and avionics software Followup-To: comp.lang.ada Date: Thu, 04 Jun 2009 11:29:12 +0200 Message-ID: <78pifuF1k9uvuU1@mid.individual.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Trace: individual.net GUIXArSwcbhEE9Fe/nkftgXxxQETk1ayT10fFHATOz14HKfFM= Cancel-Lock: sha1:G5UShUBMD7ysVW1UI9z235UWGVs= User-Agent: KNode/4.3.0 pre Xref: g2news2.google.com comp.lang.ada:6221 Date: 2009-06-04T11:29:12+02:00 List-Id: I'm sure most of us are following the news on this issue. I just read an article where an 'expert' questions "damn computers". Particularly this quote: "In these fly-by-wire systems, one never really knows if one has checked out all possible combinations of events to make sure that the computer properly reacts," http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1902421,00.html Frankly I know nothing about the aviation standards for software/computer use, but I suspect it is somewhat more strict than "one never really knows". I mean, surely you can't test everything, but I guess one can be reasonably confident on the system design! Now, there's a trend forming pointing to the ADIRU [1] unit, because of recent incidents like the Qantas flight mentioned in the article. I'm not sure there's really verified reasons to point to it yet but, trying to stay on topic: I think Airbus is mainly Ada, right? Do you know some good place to read about its software systems? What about these ADIRU units, are they delivered to Airbus by some provider or are of their own built? [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_Data_Inertial_Reference_Unit