From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FORGED_GMAIL_RCVD, FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Received: by 2002:a6b:5803:: with SMTP id m3-v6mr1547784iob.22.1528868774605; Tue, 12 Jun 2018 22:46:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 2002:aca:754b:: with SMTP id q72-v6mr123229oic.10.1528868774525; Tue, 12 Jun 2018 22:46:14 -0700 (PDT) Path: eternal-september.org!reader01.eternal-september.org!reader02.eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!feeder3.usenet.farm!feed.usenet.farm!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed8.news.xs4all.nl!85.12.16.69.MISMATCH!peer02.ams1!peer.ams1.xlned.com!news.xlned.com!peer02.am4!peer.am4.highwinds-media.com!peer03.iad!feed-me.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!d7-v6no1153393itj.0!news-out.google.com!c20-v6ni441itc.0!nntp.google.com!u78-v6no1159974itb.0!postnews.google.com!glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2018 22:46:14 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <7750bf65-77f7-4cb0-a89d-742108276b85@googlegroups.com> Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com; posting-host=76.113.16.86; posting-account=lJ3JNwoAAAAQfH3VV9vttJLkThaxtTfC NNTP-Posting-Host: 76.113.16.86 References: <5e86db65-84b9-4b5b-9aea-427a658b5ae7@googlegroups.com> <7750bf65-77f7-4cb0-a89d-742108276b85@googlegroups.com> User-Agent: G2/1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <785062ab-76a8-4c8e-92c9-d9077aa38f93@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Ada Successor Language From: Shark8 Injection-Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2018 05:46:14 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Received-Bytes: 2180 X-Received-Body-CRC: 1315100731 Xref: reader02.eternal-september.org comp.lang.ada:53076 Date: 2018-06-12T22:46:14-07:00 List-Id: On Friday, June 8, 2018 at 2:38:44 PM UTC-6, Mehdi Saada wrote: > Do you see only an IDE, or also new higher level constructs in the langua= ge itself ? The IDE idea is rather separate from an Ada successor language, at the mome= nt. Given things like the Meltdown and Specter vulnerabilities it's becomin= g obvious that HW is reaching the point where it needs provable verificatio= n just like SW does -- at least for SW we have SPARK -- a fully integrated = Ada and VHDL IDE would allow some form of crossover, allowing the SPARK pr= overs to be used on HW descriptions and prove properties there, just like w= e do in SW. This gets even more exciting when you have HW and SW together: you can veri= fy the whole system! Imagine, for a moment, the possibilities of a chip, it= s OS, and its compiler all formally verified.