From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_MSGID autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 146b77,d275ffeffdf83655 X-Google-Attributes: gid146b77,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,d275ffeffdf83655 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Thread: 109fba,d275ffeffdf83655 X-Google-Attributes: gid109fba,public X-Google-Thread: f5d71,d275ffeffdf83655 X-Google-Attributes: gidf5d71,public From: dennison@telepath.com Subject: Re: Draconian coding standards (was: Ada vs C++ vs Java) Date: 1999/01/18 Message-ID: <780fir$j51$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 434153340 References: <369C1F31.AE5AF7EF@concentric.net> <369DDDC3.FDE09999@sea.ericsson.se> <369e309a.32671759@news.demon.co.uk> <369F1D39.64A65BC1@sea.ericsson.se> <369f81a9.31040093@news.demon.co.uk> <77ommt$9bo$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> <77q4p7$diu$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> <77vk87$pv9$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> <77vpeu$unb$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> <78039c$7vk$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> <7809ne$dqe$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> X-Http-Proxy: 1.0 x5.dejanews.com:80 (Squid/1.1.22) for client 204.48.27.130 Organization: Deja News - The Leader in Internet Discussion X-Article-Creation-Date: Mon Jan 18 23:20:06 1999 GMT Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada,comp.lang.c++,comp.vxworks,comp.lang.java X-Http-User-Agent: Mozilla/4.5 [en] (WinNT; I) Date: 1999-01-18T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: In article <7809ne$dqe$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>, robert_dewar@my-dejanews.com wrote: > In article <78039c$7vk$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>, > dennison@telepath.com wrote: > > > > In isoloation this may not be to bad. But some companies > > hate the way that losses of individuals damage them, so > > they use all sorts of methods to try to force every > > individual to act the same. Not only is this a > > tremendous waste of beuracratic energy, it ends up > > removing any joy a worker might have found > > in the performance of their job. This ends up > > *increasing* the turnover rate. > > In a company that is working well, the sense of team spirit > that comes from working together in a cooperative and > consistent manner is a great source of additional > satisfaction to those involved. It sounds like you have > never been fortunate enough to work in such an environment! Twice, but it has been too long... But I don't see imposing restrictive coding styles causing that. Rather the team should naturally grow their own style, which they will all eventually gravitate to if they are truly behaving in the manner you describe. If it gets written down at all, it should just be so that new folk can assimilate with the team easier. For instance, in both the aformentioned instances above there were official written syntax standards but the *team* didn't follow them. That doesn't mean we didn't have syntax standards. Just that they were *our* standards, not the ones kept in some document maintained by systems engineers (who wouln't know Ada code from a Mellville novel). I don't know...perhaps we're dancing around the same point here. But if you have managed to set up such an atmosphere where you work, please, please ignore whatever you hear from me and keep doing what you are doing! :-) T.E.D. -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own