From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_05,INVALID_MSGID autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,6bfccba244d92efd X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public From: "news.oxy.com" Subject: Re: Choose Ada flyer Date: 1999/01/18 Message-ID: <77vkl5$9ub$1@remarQ.com>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 434022992 References: <36759F4A.20D3C90C@grep.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 X-Complaints-To: newsabuse@remarQ.com X-Trace: 916674021 HXI3FRZSOA57FC7F8C usenet52.supernews.com Organization: Posted via RemarQ, http://www.remarQ.com - Discussions start here! Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Date: 1999-01-18T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: Fully agree with Paul. >From any Company MIS department point of view issues addressed in his memo are very important. One of the factors that is preventing ADA from expanding in non military areas is the lack of RAD IDEs like Borland Delphi and other tools mentioned in Paul message (especially for Windows NT) . Windows NT is becoming dominant desktop OS and great number of software companies are writing software for Windows NT. This is a reality (does anyone like Microsoft or not it does not matter). If ADA software companies give all that mentioned tools then that will be the best promotion of the ADA in the commercial world and in MIS departments of non software Companies. As for me I have seen nothing better than Borland Delphi and I would be very happy if I had smth like it based on ADA95 and not on the Turbo Pascal. RR Software is making steps in right direction with their CLAW product but we need something like Borland Delphi (which is open for 3d party components and tools). This is my second message to this forum. First one was to the discussion thread "future of ADA". You can find more about me from that message and what I think about ADA. It is important for people taking part in discussions to know who is who. This will help better understand each other. Vladimir Olensky, ( Vladimir_Olensky@oxy.com ) Telecommunication Specialist, Occidental C.I.S. Services, Ink. (www.oxy.com) Moscow, Russia. Paul Whittington wrote in message <36759F4A.20D3C90C@grep.net>... >I don't know exactly what the purpose of this material is, but it leaves >me with the impression that Ada is the right choice for large or safety >critical applications. > >It seems to me that the majority of software being written today falls >into the non-safety critical category, and the sponsors/developers do >not identify what they're doing as a "large" project. > >IMHO, any software worth writing is large enough to warrant the use of >Ada. > >What I would want to know is > >- Is there an Ada Delphi or Visual Basic like environment that supports > the development of desktop GUI MIS-type applications? Does it support > a platform portable GUI like Tcl/Tk or JFC? > >- Are there Ada based tools that support enterprise level development? > CORBA, COM, DCOM, application servers, SQL database servers, LDAP, > and legacy system integration? > >- What about WWW deployment? Do tools exist to support the development > of thin client network applications implemented as WWW server > extensions? What platforms and servers? > >- Do these tools come with batteries included, or do I have to have > gurus on my team to integrate all sorts of technologies together to > get a useful development tool set? > >- How about third-party component/tools/utilities vendors? Where do I > go when I need to add fax, paging or report generation capabilities > to my application? > >- How many vendors are there for these kinds of tools, and are they > likely to be around in five years? > >Help me out here folks. I love Ada. From a language viewpoint there's >no better language than Ada. From a compiler/IDE, third-party support, >vendor stability viewpoint I CAN'T CHOOSE Ada! > >The closest thing I've found is Delphi.