From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_MSGID autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 146b77,d275ffeffdf83655 X-Google-Attributes: gid146b77,public X-Google-Thread: f5d71,d275ffeffdf83655 X-Google-Attributes: gidf5d71,public X-Google-Thread: 109fba,d275ffeffdf83655 X-Google-Attributes: gid109fba,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,d275ffeffdf83655 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public From: dewar@gnat.com Subject: Re: Ada vs C++ vs Java Date: 1999/01/15 Message-ID: <77mcd6$8cd$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 432732224 References: <369C1F31.AE5AF7EF@concentric.net> <369CBAED.20BE91CA@pwfl.com> <369E5BB9.F7F45FAC@no-spam-ibm.net> X-Http-Proxy: 1.0 x3.dejanews.com:80 (Squid/1.1.22) for client 205.232.38.14 Organization: Deja News - The Leader in Internet Discussion X-Article-Creation-Date: Fri Jan 15 03:24:33 1999 GMT Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada,comp.lang.c++,comp.vxworks,comp.lang.java X-Http-User-Agent: Mozilla/4.04 [en] (OS/2; I) Date: 1999-01-15T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: In article <369E5BB9.F7F45FAC@no-spam-ibm.net>, "Michael J. Tobler" wrote: > Then that tells me you dont read the trade rags > or keep up with various tools in the industry > besides what you use. There are MANY tools written > in pure Java. Look at Application Servers, or > how about Together/J (UML design tool), etc Actually these kind of lists are not very persuasive in indicating that a language is being widely used. They can show that a language has *some* significant use, but it is hard to get the scale right to know that they are saying anything about widespread use. For example, Pascal has some very important and sigtnificant uses (go visit the Borland page to read about them), but I think few would regard Pascal as a widely used language. Similarly, the lists of Ada uses are impressive in effectively convincing you that Ada has important and significant use in many domains, but few would regard it as a language which is in widespread use. So the question is not whether Java has some significant use, it is whether it is really challenging the position of COBOL, C++ and other genuinely widespread languages. Certainly Java is not about to disappear, just as it is clear that Ada will not disappear, but whether it can make it from a niche to be a really major player in the general application market remains to be seen. Robert Dewar -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own