From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Received: by 10.52.36.211 with SMTP id s19mr20000212vdj.7.1404162165202; Mon, 30 Jun 2014 14:02:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.182.91.37 with SMTP id cb5mr301291obb.0.1404162164895; Mon, 30 Jun 2014 14:02:44 -0700 (PDT) Path: border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!goblin1!goblin.stu.neva.ru!news.glorb.com!w8no4229611qac.0!news-out.google.com!gf2ni2852igb.0!nntp.google.com!hn18no282149igb.0!postnews.google.com!glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2014 14:02:44 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com; posting-host=71.252.147.203; posting-account=zwxLlwoAAAChLBU7oraRzNDnqQYkYbpo NNTP-Posting-Host: 71.252.147.203 References: <79e447d6-9e14-445b-9d65-3a2cad20063b@googlegroups.com> User-Agent: G2/1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <77095cf1-f5a3-4d06-b0f6-54d5b206bfaf@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: GNAVI: Win32 bindings & ATL framework for Ada From: "Dan'l Miller" Injection-Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2014 21:02:44 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Xref: number.nntp.dca.giganews.com comp.lang.ada:187294 Date: 2014-06-30T14:02:44-07:00 List-Id: On Monday, June 30, 2014 3:31:37 PM UTC-5, gautier...@hotmail.com wrote: > Le dimanche 29 juin 2014 16:47:54 UTC+2, Dan'l Miller a =E9crit=A0: >=20 > > GNAVI is Ada for Windows development prior to Windows 8; GNAVI does not= support Microsoft App Store apps via WinRT. >=20 >=20 >=20 > Did you have issues running software built with GWindows/GNAVI under Wind= ows 8 or 8.1 ? I am evaluating whether GNAVI meets my needs. It seems that GNAVI supports= only Win32 (which is based on C API & ABI), not the new Windows Runtime (w= hich is based on a derivative variant of COM). It seems that GNATCOM's Act= iveX design could be extended to support Windows Runtime's COM. > If so don't hesitate to share your experience. It seems that GNAVI's design has not yet been extended beyond Win32 to Wind= ows Runtime (on either x86 or ARM). [MinGW-64 is chipping away at the obst= acles of running GCC 4.9 including GNAT on Windows 8.X for ARM.] It seems = possible that GNAVI's design could be extended to be, effectively, a port o= f Microsoft's WRL (the Windows Runtime Library for C++), but perhaps with= =20 > There is even a dedicated mailing list (gnavi-discuss). Yes, I am aware of that; I am a (lurking) subscriber of gnavi-discuss. Giv= en that the archive of gnavi-discuss has been silent regarding Windows Runt= ime for store apps, I thought that I would broaden the audience here on com= p.lang.ada to Ada people outside of Gnavi to see if additional interested p= arties would find Gnavi intriguing in either its Win32 incarnation now or e= xpanding to support a WRL-reverse-engineered (and/or C++/CX inspired*) Ada-= based binding to Windows Runtime so that Ada2012 could be utilized for deve= loping "Modern/Metro" Windows Store apps instead of "desktop" Win32 executa= bles. My intent is dual-fold: 1) give GNAVI & GNATCOM as it is today some visibility in general; 2) stoke the fires of GNAVI & GNATCOM evolution for the future henceforth. * inspired here =3D without the /CX C++/CLI-like oddball thick-binding synt= ax extensions for C++, but rather as standard-Ada-compliant nice thick bind= ing instead of WRL's rough-shod intricacies & boilerplate idioms for C++.