From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_MSGID, PP_MIME_FAKE_ASCII_TEXT autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII X-Google-Thread: fdb77,764cbe34e0365b81 X-Google-Attributes: gidfdb77,public X-Google-Thread: 109fba,4438af6225b2af65 X-Google-Attributes: gid109fba,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,4438af6225b2af65 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public From: dewar@gnat.com Subject: Re: Real time Java? Huh? Date: 1998/11/06 Message-ID: <71usgj$uv4$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 409007461 References: <363E1DE8.4189EBAC@solaris.ok> <364024f5.3575731@news.demon.co.uk> <364071C4.619D@world.std.com> <3641ca4b.23637018@news.demon.co.uk> <3641B718.DBF4C37C@tisny.com> <36431ca0.301400410@news.netcomuk.co.uk> <364224FB.7FCF@world.std.com> <71tpsr$hva$1@supernews.com> <36427517.27089188@news.nmia.com> <36428b55.0@blushng.jps.net> <71uc8n$lu1$1@platane.wanadoo.fr> X-Http-Proxy: 1.0 x10.dejanews.com:80 (Squid/1.1.22) for client 205.232.38.14 Organization: Deja News - The Leader in Internet Discussion X-Article-Creation-Date: Fri Nov 06 13:10:42 1998 GMT Newsgroups: comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.lang.ada,comp.lang.c++ X-Http-User-Agent: Mozilla/4.04 [en] (OS/2; I) Date: 1998-11-06T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: In article <71uc8n$lu1$1@platane.wanadoo.fr>, "Jean-Pierre Rosen" wrote: > > Joseph <**********@*******.**> a �crit dans le message > <36428b55.0@blushng.jps.net>... > >I missed way too much of this thread. Java as a real time language? > >Tell me that this is a hoax, please. > > > At an AFNOR-Ada (French standardization body) we had a discussion > about this yesterday. > It seems that by real-time Java, people really mean "embedded Java", > i.e. in SmartCards for example. When I asked how extensive dynamic > allocation and garbage collector could be used in smart-cards, > people told me that there were restrictions, like only final classes > with only final methods... When I asked why use Java rather than > C, and why not call such "classes" packages, I had no answer... > sigh. There are very good reasons for using JVM based approaches for real time embedded systems, and you should not just assume that garbage collection is out of the question in such systems. This is why it is so important that we have Ada 95 systems that target the JVM! Robert Dewar Ada Core Technologies -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own