From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Received: by 10.50.66.238 with SMTP id i14mr10657461igt.4.1386775444788; Wed, 11 Dec 2013 07:24:04 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.182.111.170 with SMTP id ij10mr19702obb.18.1386775444742; Wed, 11 Dec 2013 07:24:04 -0800 (PST) Path: border1.nntp.dca3.giganews.com!backlog4.nntp.dca3.giganews.com!border4.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!ie8no8665180qab.0!news-out.google.com!9ni7215qaf.0!nntp.google.com!p15no19219869qaj.0!postnews.google.com!glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2013 07:24:04 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com; posting-host=129.59.203.130; posting-account=7Oy7OQoAAABhVYFOo553Cn1-AaU-bSfl NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.59.203.130 References: User-Agent: G2/1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <7166e0b2-4b28-4d75-820f-8ee0d05dca2a@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: [ANN] Muen - An x86/64 Separation Kernel for High Assurance From: Eryndlia Mavourneen Injection-Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2013 15:24:04 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Original-Bytes: 2581 Xref: number.nntp.dca.giganews.com comp.lang.ada:184194 Date: 2013-12-11T07:24:04-08:00 List-Id: On Wednesday, December 11, 2013 8:46:02 AM UTC-6, Adrian-Ken Rueegsegger wr= ote: > On 12/11/2013 03:07 PM, Maciej Sobczak wrote: > > W dniu wtorek, 10 grudnia 2013 18:25:20 UTC+1 u=C5=BCytkownik Adrian-Ke= n Rueegsegger napisa=C5=82: > >=20 > >> We are proud to announce the public availability of the Muen Separatio= n > >> Kernel project. The goal of the Muen project is the development of a > >> trustworthy open-source foundation for component-based high-assurance > >> systems. > >=20 > > Interesting. > >=20 > > Do you plan to support the TCP/IP stack in this kernel? > > (It is announced as a prototype, so I assume that it is not yet done.) >=20 > No, the kernel will not have a TCP/IP stack. Networking must be done by > a subject running on top of the Muen Kernel, e.g. a Linux VM that has > direct access to a network card. A second possibility would be to > implement TCP/IP as a native Ada/SPARK component which would drive the > NIC directly. AdaCore has such a stack, see [1]. >=20 > Regards, > Adrian >=20 > [1] - http://www.adacore.com/labs/tcp-ip-stack/ Hear hear! I definitely agree that the kernel should be kept clean, effici= ent, and safe. Protocols and the such should be implemented within layers = outside of the kernel. -- Eryndlia Mavourneen (KK1T)