From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD2, FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,6e045a5e739e2c80 X-Google-NewGroupId: yes X-Google-Attributes: gida07f3367d7,domainid0,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII Received: by 10.68.221.4 with SMTP id qa4mr9268540pbc.7.1330294118786; Sun, 26 Feb 2012 14:08:38 -0800 (PST) Path: h9ni12786pbe.0!nntp.google.com!news2.google.com!postnews.google.com!do4g2000vbb.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail From: Gautier write-only Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Re=Fun_with_History why_wasnt_Ada83_object_oriented Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2012 14:06:49 -0800 (PST) Organization: http://groups.google.com Message-ID: <7034d83a-698b-42fa-b13f-31461ed6e50e@do4g2000vbb.googlegroups.com> References: <15362655.665.1330003793505.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@pbbox6> NNTP-Posting-Host: 62.203.48.155 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Trace: posting.google.com 1330294118 9107 127.0.0.1 (26 Feb 2012 22:08:38 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2012 22:08:38 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: do4g2000vbb.googlegroups.com; posting-host=62.203.48.155; posting-account=gRqrnQkAAAAC_02ynnhqGk1VRQlve6ZG User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-Google-Web-Client: true X-Google-Header-Order: HNKUARELSC X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1) AppleWebKit/535.11 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/17.0.963.56 Safari/535.11,gzip(gfe) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: 2012-02-26T14:06:49-08:00 List-Id: On 24 f=E9v, 22:32, tmo...@acm.org wrote: > > =A0The obvious repercussion of this is that there weren't any cheap > > =A0compilers (say, in the US$50 - US$100 range) that you could run on > > =A0your PC at home, so no one could experiment with the language. =A0Ad= a > > =A0essentially missed the boat in the PC revolution, and so was never > > =A0 The obvious lesson here is that advertising is supreme. =A0There was > in fact a $100 Ada that ran on DOS machines - I know because I bought > it to try out this new language named Ada. =A0I think the ad I saw was in > Byte magazine, but it surely wasn't as much press as Lotus or Ovation(?) > the never-did-exist system described in a cover article. Advertising is an important component, but not all. For instance mouth-to-ear (and black copies on diskettes...) contributed to the success of some compilers. The quality of the product is also primordial. The success of Turbo Pascal was due to a genial idea that the need of most programmers are not much having a compiler but having a full development tool focused on a quick development cycle. They offered: 1) an integrated editor 2) a fast native-code compiler (at the expense of compiled code quality, but nobody cared) Not sure if any Ada compiler - cheap or not - in the whole 80's was able to do that. _________________________ Gautier's Ada programming http://sf.net/users/gdemont