From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 107f24,626a0a064b320310 X-Google-Attributes: gid107f24,public X-Google-Thread: f4fd2,626a0a064b320310 X-Google-Attributes: gidf4fd2,public X-Google-Thread: 114809,626a0a064b320310 X-Google-Attributes: gid114809,public X-Google-Thread: 10259a,626a0a064b320310 X-Google-Attributes: gid10259a,public X-Google-Thread: 1164ba,626a0a064b320310 X-Google-Attributes: gid1164ba,public X-Google-Thread: 103d24,626a0a064b320310 X-Google-Attributes: gid103d24,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,ea8ea502d35ca2ce X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-05-10 08:02:22 PST Path: newsfeed.google.com!sn-xit-03!supernews.com!newsfeed.wirehub.nl!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.tele.dk!213.24.141.54!newsfeed.gamma.ru!Gamma.RU!carrier.kiev.ua!news.kiev.sovam.com!Svitonline.COM!news.ukr.net!news.tsystems.kiev.ua!glukr!freenews.gu.net!not-for-mail From: Eugene Zaikonnikov Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada,comp.lang.lisp,comp.lang.smalltalk,comp.lang.basic,comp.lang.functional,comp.lang.scheme,comp.lang.perl Subject: Re: Beginner's Language? Date: 10 May 2001 17:44:53 +0300 Organization: Center of Information Technology - CIT Message-ID: <6y7kzpclga.fsf@viking.cit> References: <9cukad$nn68@news-dxb> <9d6b6e$1bt$1@nh.pace.co.uk> <87snihxiwc.fsf@frown.here> <9dbi83$sji$1@nh.pace.co.uk> <87heyu7cqd.fsf@frown.here> <9dc20p$hh15e$1@ID-37382.news.dfncis.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: cpl2500.cit.org.by Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mail-Copies-To: never X-Attribution: Eugene X-URL: User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.0.103 Cache-Post-Path: cpl2500.cit.org.by!unknown@viking.cit X-Cache: nntpcache 2.3.3 (see http://www.nntpcache.org/) Xref: newsfeed.google.com comp.lang.ada:7476 comp.lang.lisp:9942 comp.lang.smalltalk:9688 comp.lang.functional:5624 comp.lang.scheme:3776 comp.lang.perl:2779 Date: 2001-05-10T17:44:53+03:00 List-Id: * "AK" == Andreas Krennmair writes: AK> The problem is that Lisp is in no way similar to a natural AK> language. And natural language can be understood easier than some AK> functional, theoretical stuff with a unique concept like AK> Lisp. Lisp isn't a language with a unique concept for a very long time. It provides support for quite a few paradigms and does it much better than many of the languages. AK> Lisp has hardly anything in common with natural languages. Or AK> could you express "My girlfriend's name is Suzy and her age is AK> 17" as readable as this in Lisp: AK> $girlfriend{'name'} = "Suzy"; AK> $girlfriend{'age'} = 17; (make-instance 'girlfriend :name "Suzy" :age 17) ? -- Eugene