From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_05,INVALID_MSGID autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: f9437,544c98121879c710 X-Google-Attributes: gidf9437,public X-Google-Thread: f9437,ca641b3dcee9ee4 X-Google-Attributes: gidf9437,public X-Google-Thread: 109fba,b99334cb89bcb335 X-Google-Attributes: gid109fba,public X-Google-Thread: 109fba,ca641b3dcee9ee4 X-Google-Attributes: gid109fba,public X-Google-Thread: fac41,544c98121879c710 X-Google-Attributes: gidfac41,public X-Google-Thread: fac41,ca641b3dcee9ee4 X-Google-Attributes: gidfac41,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,544c98121879c710 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,ca641b3dcee9ee4 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Thread: 1108a1,544c98121879c710 X-Google-Attributes: gid1108a1,public X-Google-Thread: 1108a1,ca641b3dcee9ee4 X-Google-Attributes: gid1108a1,public X-Google-Thread: 114809,544c98121879c710 X-Google-Attributes: gid114809,public X-Google-Thread: 114809,ca641b3dcee9ee4 X-Google-Attributes: gid114809,public From: "Robert C. Martin" Subject: Re: RFD: comp.object.moderated moderated Date: 1998/10/12 Message-ID: <6vt92j$m9e$1@hirame.wwa.com>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 400283744 References: <907918039.22235@isc.org> <36210B47.6A5FE581@eiffel.com> <6vsuhb$grp$1@reader1.reader.news.ozemail.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Organization: Object Mentor Inc. Newsgroups: news.groups,comp.object,comp.lang.eiffel,comp.lang.c++,comp.lang.smalltalk,comp.lang.ada Date: 1998-10-12T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: Jason Stokes wrote in message <6vsuhb$grp$1@reader1.reader.news.ozemail.net>... >In article , Patrick May wrote: >> >> The creation of comp.object.moderated is an attempt to maintain a >>minimum level of civility in the discussion of OO technology. The >>charter does not allow censorship based on content. This group has >>been requested solely due to the pollution of comp.object by a single >>prolific poster who makes some interesting points but wraps them in >>flames, insults, and off-topic material. > >A single prolific poster can be killfiled quite easily. Any self >respecting news reader software will have a feature to score and reject >articles from particular people automatically. The problem goes far beyond one person. Whether due to one person or to many, the end result is that comp.object has turned into a place dominated by noise, name calling, off topic philosophical discussions, and personal insults. The long term exposure of many of the regular posters to this barrage of insults and denegrations has let to some posters becoming trigger happy, blasting off a premptive strike at the first indication of trouble. The noisy off-topic philosophical arguments have also attracted certain posters who like to continue these off topic threads. The result has been chaos, and a marked attenuation of real content from the group. The informal vote to moderate was overwhelmingly in favor. (By well over a factor of ten). This, I think, indicates that the noise level has gotten to the point where moderators must intervene and put the discussions back on a technical foundation rather than a personal one. Robert C. Martin | Design Consulting | Training courses offered: Object Mentor | rmartin@oma.com | Object Oriented Design 14619 N Somerset Cr | Tel: (800) 338-6716 | C++ Green Oaks IL 60048 | Fax: (847) 918-1023 | http://www.oma.com