From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_MSGID autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: fac41,544c98121879c710 X-Google-Attributes: gidfac41,public X-Google-Thread: fac41,ca641b3dcee9ee4 X-Google-Attributes: gidfac41,public X-Google-Thread: f9437,544c98121879c710 X-Google-Attributes: gidf9437,public X-Google-Thread: f9437,ca641b3dcee9ee4 X-Google-Attributes: gidf9437,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,544c98121879c710 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,ca641b3dcee9ee4 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Thread: 109fba,b99334cb89bcb335 X-Google-Attributes: gid109fba,public X-Google-Thread: 109fba,ca641b3dcee9ee4 X-Google-Attributes: gid109fba,public X-Google-Thread: 114809,544c98121879c710 X-Google-Attributes: gid114809,public X-Google-Thread: 114809,ca641b3dcee9ee4 X-Google-Attributes: gid114809,public X-Google-Thread: 1108a1,544c98121879c710 X-Google-Attributes: gid1108a1,public X-Google-Thread: 1108a1,ca641b3dcee9ee4 X-Google-Attributes: gid1108a1,public From: "Phlip" Subject: Re: RFD: comp.object.moderated moderated Date: 1998/10/12 Message-ID: <6vt32u$5mp@chronicle.concentric.net>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 400257762 References: <907918039.22235@isc.org> <36210B47.6A5FE581@eiffel.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Organization: Concentric Internet Services Newsgroups: news.groups,comp.object,comp.lang.eiffel,comp.lang.c++,comp.lang.smalltalk,comp.lang.ada Date: 1998-10-12T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: David Franklin Reynolds wrote: > >Patrick May wrote: >>Bertrand Meyer writes: >> > `comp.object.moderated' is a blatant attempt at censoring >> > any non-conforming view on object technology. I was right. Nobody else on this thread replied to anything but the first line. Irony: The first line was by a published author of books considered seminal! >> The creation of comp.object.moderated is an attempt to maintain a >>minimum level of civility in the discussion of OO technology. The >>charter does not allow censorship based on content. This group has >>been requested solely due to the pollution of comp.object by a single >>prolific poster who makes some interesting points but wraps them in >>flames, insults, and off-topic material. >... >Moderate a group because of one person? I'll vote NO. Either just skip the >posts, or learn how to use a filter to make them disappear automagically. They've tried. Discussion fora work - much better than verbal discussion for some topics - because after someone posts a good idea or a bad one, everyone else elaborates on it. One post can set off a cascade of replies containing valid and useful data. A "thread" is really a "tree". Trolling works by exploiting this cascade effect to fill a group up with crap. Kill-files work against unsuccessful trolls, but even if any "critical mass" of forum subscribers kill-file a troll the group still fills up with a cascade of useless crap. This "pollutes" a forum by making lurkers avoid reading good posts - you never know which ones they could be in a trolled thread. comp.lang.c++ was moderated to provide respite endless holy wars, repeated neophyte questions and off-topic info about hardware, libraries and platforms. comp.object is about philosophy - the P in Ph.D. It already does not have the problems comp.lang.c++ did. But it has problems. -- Phlip at politizen dot com (address munged) ======= http://users.deltanet.com/~tegan/home.html ======= -- "These days I find myself worrying about the International Conspiracy Against Me. "How can I _increase_ it??" - Phlip --