From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_MSGID autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: fac41,9a0ff0bffdf63657 X-Google-Attributes: gidfac41,public X-Google-Thread: 1108a1,9a0ff0bffdf63657 X-Google-Attributes: gid1108a1,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,4b06f8f15f01a568 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Thread: f43e6,9a0ff0bffdf63657 X-Google-Attributes: gidf43e6,public From: "Gene Gajewski" Subject: Re: Software landmines (loops) Date: 1998/08/31 Message-ID: <6sfp81$4v5$1@birch.prod.itd.earthlink.net>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 386663463 References: <902934874.2099.0.nnrp-10.c246a717@news.demon.co.uk> <6r1glm$bvh$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> <6r9f8h$jtm$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> <6renh8$ga7$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> <6rf59b$2ud$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> <6rfra4$rul$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> <35DBDD24.D003404D@calfp.co.uk> <6sbuod$fra$1@hirame.wwa.com> <35f51e53.48044143@news.erols.com> <6sdiav$e0g$1@hirame.wwa.com> X-Posted-Path-Was: not-for-mail X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 X-ELN-Date: Mon Aug 31 20:21:37 1998 Organization: EarthLink Network, Inc. Newsgroups: comp.lang.eiffel,comp.object,comp.software-eng,comp.lang.ada Date: 1998-08-31T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: Matthew Heaney wrote in message ... >"Robert Martin" writes: > >The problem with exit at the top is that it defers the actual >termination. I have to make sure no code gets executed unintentionally >between the place at which the exit flag is set, and the bottom of the >loop. > >I can almost live that. The real problem, however, is that using an >extra flag to terminate VASTLY complicates the predicate. In fact, the >flag doubles the number of states I have to think about when mentally >evaluating the predicate! That's the real source of the loop >termination errors. > >(I shouldn't have to remind anyone, but just in case: George Miller did >a famous study about human cognitive limits, and found that people can >remember about 7 things, plus or minus 2. That's why complex predicates >make a programmer's head spin, and why he often gets loop termination >wrong.) I've been following this thread for some time.... I wasn't aware that anyone did any specific research on cognitive limits, but I posit this is something intuitive. I've made a post to this sometime before. I believe we encounter such things as a rule that states 'there shall be but one exit point' because there are those who analyze code mechanistically, without bothering to aquire an understanding of what the code is doing. I sat recently sat through a 'code review', which was really a boss's one-on-one style check, and got hammered severely about some constructs I used in a particular function. A real knock-down/drag-out bitch fest. The words 'Well, I understand it NOW that I've read it" were actually uttered during that session, and not by me....