From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,5bc4be576204aa20 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: g2news1.google.com!news3.google.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!newscon06.news.prodigy.com!prodigy.net!newsfeed-00.mathworks.com!lon-transit.news.telstra.net!lon-in.news.telstra.net!news.telstra.net!news-server.bigpond.net.au!53ab2750!not-for-mail From: "robin" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada References: <43783810.6080808@obry.net> <0f4ef.1413$s14.1261@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net> <5Fpif.25167$Zv5.13092@newssvr25.news.prodigy.net> Subject: Re: Buffer overflow Article - CACM X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Message-ID: <6ktjf.8048$ea6.3571@news-server.bigpond.net.au> Date: Thu, 01 Dec 2005 02:35:46 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 203.54.177.198 X-Complaints-To: abuse@bigpond.net.au X-Trace: news-server.bigpond.net.au 1133404546 203.54.177.198 (Thu, 01 Dec 2005 13:35:46 EST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 01 Dec 2005 13:35:46 EST Organization: BigPond Internet Services Xref: g2news1.google.com comp.lang.ada:6702 Date: 2005-12-01T02:35:46+00:00 List-Id: adaworks@sbcglobal.net wrote in message <5Fpif.25167$Zv5.13092@newssvr25.news.prodigy.net>... > >"Christopher Browne" wrote in message >news:m3psop8e45.fsf@mobile.int.cbbrowne.com... >> >> Where the CACM article has some things *right* is that there are >> plenty of systems where it would be way too costly to reimplement them >> in a buffer-overflow-immune language. People are not going to redo >> everything in PL/1 or Ada just because they have better specified >> string types. They don't have time. >> -- >I am reminded of the well-known comment that "We always have time to >do it over but never time to do it right." > >In the case of Ada, there is no need to "redo everything." The language is >rather friendly to other languages. As for PL/I, there are entirely too many >other problems with that language to use it for dependable software. What you say is not true; PL/I is perfectly capable, reliable, and robust for all kinds of projects, including real-time projects, just as Ada is. As well, PL/I interfaces to other languages. >Richard Riehle