From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,58988230753075de X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-07-29 18:39:49 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!newsfeed.google.com!sn-xit-02!supernews.com!news.tele.dk!192.50.8.47!newsfeed.media.kyoto-u.ac.jp!sjc-peer.news.verio.net!news.verio.net!iad-read.news.verio.net.POSTED!kilgallen From: Kilgallen@eisner.decus.org.nospam (Larry Kilgallen) Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: In praise of Ada Freeware Message-ID: <6jSXphU8E$xY@eisner.encompasserve.org> References: <87wv4r1uy5.fsf@deneb.enyo.de> <+uc0vOZmzK9b@eisner.encompasserve.org> <5ee5b646.0107291409.6538ad64@posting.google.com> Organization: LJK Software Date: 29 Jul 2001 21:39:29 -0500 NNTP-Posting-Host: 216.44.122.34 X-Complaints-To: abuse@verio.net X-Trace: iad-read.news.verio.net 996457171 216.44.122.34 (Mon, 30 Jul 2001 01:39:31 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 01:39:31 GMT Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:10704 Date: 2001-07-29T21:39:29-05:00 List-Id: In article <5ee5b646.0107291409.6538ad64@posting.google.com>, dewar@gnat.com (Robert Dewar) writes: > Kilgallen@eisner.decus.org.nospam (Larry Kilgallen) wrote in message news:<+uc0vOZmzK9b@eisner.encompasserve.org>... >> In article <87wv4r1uy5.fsf@deneb.enyo.de>, Florian Weimer writes: > >> The first one was my point -- those whose interest is more >> in encouraging use of Ada than in encouraging the use of GPL >> should remember the Freeware route. > > > You are creating a choice that does not exist. The point of using > the GPL is to ensure that the software remains accessible and > redistributable in source form. Given that it is this accessibility > that allows people to appreciate the effectiveness of Ada, the use > of the GPL is certainly not for its own sake, but precisely because > many of us see this as the best way of encouraging the use of Ada. Given that some companies want something that does not have the GPL restrictions, Freeware is a mechanism that can expose them to Ada. > 2. You write something in Ada, and put in the public domain (it may > just possibly be the case that Larry really meant this when he used > the word freeware), and distribute the sources. Microsoft now takes > the software, translates it into C, and puts it into Windows XP++. > Again how does that help Ada? Not much! It slows down Microsoft :-)