From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Received: by 10.236.0.231 with SMTP id 67mr53621712yhb.8.1416044862653; Sat, 15 Nov 2014 01:47:42 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.140.93.199 with SMTP id d65mr872qge.20.1416044862635; Sat, 15 Nov 2014 01:47:42 -0800 (PST) Path: eternal-september.org!reader01.eternal-september.org!reader02.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!mx02.eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!news.glorb.com!peer02.iad.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!feed-me.highwinds-media.com!i13no1799721qae.0!news-out.google.com!m4ni193qag.1!nntp.google.com!u7no1799140qaz.1!postnews.google.com!glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2014 01:47:42 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com; posting-host=93.37.246.14; posting-account=9fwclgkAAAD6oQ5usUYhee1l39geVY99 NNTP-Posting-Host: 93.37.246.14 References: <5194f09b-8898-4bea-a97b-5961ca67beeb@googlegroups.com> User-Agent: G2/1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <6f738439-9426-47e2-9d5c-828fb14f2812@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Ada-Comment From: mockturtle Injection-Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2014 09:47:42 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Received-Bytes: 3926 X-Received-Body-CRC: 1140081760 Xref: news.eternal-september.org comp.lang.ada:23360 Date: 2014-11-15T01:47:42-08:00 List-Id: The problem was not due to a "bug," but to a change of policy that were mad= e too strict. At that time I did not pay much attention to that thread, an= d I still have to dig it, so I am relying on memory and maybe what I am goi= ng to say is not 100% exact...=20 If I remember correctly the problem was that a message sent via a mailing l= ist was believed to be a spoofed message (maybe because the address in the = From: field did not match the ML mailer, or something like that) and some m= ail servers with said "overstrict" policy rejected the message. After few = rejections, the ML server would assume that the address was not working any= more and it would unsubscribe automatically the user. This is, more or less, as I remember it. When I find a timeslot, I am goin= g to dig in the mail archives, so I can be more precise. Riccardo On Friday, November 14, 2014 11:13:03 PM UTC+1, Randy Brukardt wrote: > I haven't seen any lasting problems with the big providers, just smaller= =20 > ones. I get the list mail on my phone, for instance (which is a GMail=20 > account). >=20 > Randy. >=20 > "mockturtle" wrote in message=20 > news:5194f09b-8898-4bea-a97b-5961ca67beeb@googlegroups.com... > I read on a IETF mailing list around may 2014 about problems with mailin= g=20 > lists and some e-mail providers (yahoo? gmail? I am not 100% sure, it has= =20 > been a long time...) that changed their DMARC policies and this caused th= e=20 > (silent?) rejection of some ML messages. It has been a long time and I d= o=20 > not remember the details (I can dig, if you want). Maybe is this related= =20 > with the Ada-Comment problem? >=20 > If this can help: I have a gmail account and I received the thread about= =20 > random number generation. >=20 > Best, >=20 > Riccardo >=20 > On Friday, November 14, 2014 7:18:21 AM UTC+1, Randy Brukardt wrote: > > I just noticed that a number of you got auto-deleted from Ada-Comment > > tonight. If you didn't get a bunch of messages from it in the last week > > about random numbers (the last on Tuesday), you've probably got a probl= em > > getting mail from my systems. (Dmitry and Christoph are among the peopl= e > > that got removed from the list). > > > > I changed Internet providers late last month, and that could have broke= n > > some firewall rules and the like (my mail and web servers are at differ= ent > > IPs than before, so old rules may need to be replaced). So you might wa= nt=20 > > to > > check if everything is working on your end, and resubscribe if you stil= l > > want to get list mail. > > > > Randy Brukardt, ARG Editor and AdaIC webmaster.