From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Received: by 10.36.64.67 with SMTP id n64mr5167567ita.36.1517001900404; Fri, 26 Jan 2018 13:25:00 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.157.85.15 with SMTP id l15mr1098781oth.12.1517001900332; Fri, 26 Jan 2018 13:25:00 -0800 (PST) Path: eternal-september.org!reader01.eternal-september.org!reader02.eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!border1.nntp.ams1.giganews.com!border2.nntp.ams1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!peer01.ams1!peer.ams1.xlned.com!news.xlned.com!peer03.am4!peer.am4.highwinds-media.com!peer01.iad!feed-me.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!g80no1066262itg.0!news-out.google.com!b73ni1695ita.0!nntp.google.com!w142no1066878ita.0!postnews.google.com!glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2018 13:25:00 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <2d9ffdfe-bfcc-4d9c-b1ff-c402565d098c@googlegroups.com> Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com; posting-host=76.113.16.86; posting-account=lJ3JNwoAAAAQfH3VV9vttJLkThaxtTfC NNTP-Posting-Host: 76.113.16.86 References: <942235344.537649945.074508.laguest-archeia.com@nntp.aioe.org> <288039467.538377555.666858.laguest-archeia.com@nntp.aioe.org> <62033550-4044-450b-9010-beba11f99f4e@googlegroups.com> <2d9ffdfe-bfcc-4d9c-b1ff-c402565d098c@googlegroups.com> User-Agent: G2/1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <6eec86eb-a0b4-458b-a1dd-a968bb46ac02@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Five Years After From: Shark8 Injection-Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2018 21:25:00 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Received-Bytes: 2984 X-Received-Body-CRC: 1600299456 Xref: reader02.eternal-september.org comp.lang.ada:50166 Date: 2018-01-26T13:25:00-08:00 List-Id: On Wednesday, January 24, 2018 at 1:34:54 PM UTC-7, Lucretia wrote: > On Wednesday, 24 January 2018 19:06:52 UTC, Simon Clubley wrote: >=20 > > >> I'm a in position to talk, and I know peanuts about Oberon, but can= I ask you something... What is "core" for you ? Is tasking part of it ? Fu= ll-featured generics ? Support for exceptions or clause representations ? C= lass-wide programming and interfaces ? Or what do you not feel as essential= ? >=20 > I based on Oberon, the syntax needs to be massaged to take away the Wirth= ianisms that are just horrible. i.e. Uppercase keywords, ; or . and being o= ptional or not, begin...end everywhere adding bulk. Are upper-case keywords a Wirthianism? AFAIK, Oberon is the only one with c= ase-sensitivity for keywords (Algol-W, Pascal, Modula, and [even if not dev= eloped-by, certainly influenced-by Wirth] Ada). ';' as a separator rather than a terminator makes a certain amount of sense= -- after all we don't say Function K(A : Integer; B : Character; C : Float= ;) Return Natural; -- but, OTOH, it *does* essentially necessitate a ";" nu= ll-statement, which I think was a good idea to avoid in Ada with "null;". Also, I much prefer Begin and End to { and } and rather like that Ada chose= to go with keywords rather than symbols -- but it was smart to subsume the= m into things like If/Else/End If and Loop/End Loop via the Sequence_Of_Sta= tements grammar-construct.