From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,80ae596d36288e8a X-Google-NewGroupId: yes X-Google-Attributes: gida07f3367d7,domainid0,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII Path: g2news2.google.com!postnews.google.com!n10g2000yqf.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail From: Ludovic Brenta Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Why no socket package in the standard ? Date: Wed, 25 May 2011 09:36:17 -0700 (PDT) Organization: http://groups.google.com Message-ID: <6d913128-402e-47cc-ae3e-273b65198507@n10g2000yqf.googlegroups.com> References: <872169864327910446.796089rmhost.bauhaus-maps.arcor.de@news.arcor.de> <9cb23235-8824-43f4-92aa-d2e8d10e7d8c@ct4g2000vbb.googlegroups.com> <4ddb5bd7$0$302$14726298@news.sunsite.dk> <4ddb81b8$0$7628$9b4e6d93@newsspool1.arcor-online.net> <87aaeban8a.fsf@ludovic-brenta.org> <8762ozahib.fsf@ludovic-brenta.org> <871uznaczz.fsf@ludovic-brenta.org> <015e3d6a-772a-41f8-a057-49c8b7bd80e1@w21g2000yqm.googlegroups.com> <4MednVYCXuUZQEHQRVn_vwA@giganews.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 153.98.68.197 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: posting.google.com 1306341378 18830 127.0.0.1 (25 May 2011 16:36:18 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 25 May 2011 16:36:18 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: n10g2000yqf.googlegroups.com; posting-host=153.98.68.197; posting-account=pcLQNgkAAAD9TrXkhkIgiY6-MDtJjIlC User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-Google-Web-Client: true X-Google-Header-Order: HUALESRCNK X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.0.6) Gecko/2009012111 Red Hat/3.0.6-1.el5 Firefox/3.0.6,gzip(gfe) Xref: g2news2.google.com comp.lang.ada:20445 Date: 2011-05-25T09:36:17-07:00 List-Id: Yannick Duch=EAne wrote on comp.lang.ada: > Peter C. Chapin a =E9crit: >> It also true that autoconf is a travesty... a throwback to a darker age >> when the POSIX standard did not exist (or at least was not widely >> implemented). > > I do not know that much about Autoconf, so I can't really understand what= =A0 > that mean and implies (someone else here also say a bit the same as you = =A0 > too). Make was invented to overcome the deficiencies of C, notably the lack of modular programming and dependency management. Automake was invented to overcome the deficiencies of make, notably the poor maintainability of Makefiles. Configure was invented to overcome the deficiencies of early UNIX systems, notably the lack of conformance to POSIX, and their impact of the maintenance of Automake files. Autoconf was invented to overcome the deficiencies of Configure, notably the sheer size and horror of the configure scripts, which routinely consist of hundreds of thousands of lines of illegible POSIX shell code. The novice programmer adds corrective code. The master programmer removes defective code. Enough said :) -- Ludovic Brenta.