From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,677963b1aa23e668 X-Google-NewGroupId: yes X-Google-Attributes: gida07f3367d7,domainid0,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII Path: g2news2.google.com!postnews.google.com!q12g2000prb.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail From: KK6GM Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: What's stopping you from using Ada for your next commercial project? Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 18:22:09 -0800 (PST) Organization: http://groups.google.com Message-ID: <6d21e861-3700-42ac-aa9b-e7b59f58c852@q12g2000prb.googlegroups.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: 75.5.247.151 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: posting.google.com 1299723729 15767 127.0.0.1 (10 Mar 2011 02:22:09 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 02:22:09 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: q12g2000prb.googlegroups.com; posting-host=75.5.247.151; posting-account=qZVz2QoAAAAN9WxYp-9jYb7jORc4Zqwt User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 8.0; Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; Trident/4.0; GTB6.6; SLCC2; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; .NET CLR 3.5.30729; .NET CLR 3.0.30729; Media Center PC 6.0; .NET4.0C; .NET4.0E),gzip(gfe) Xref: g2news2.google.com comp.lang.ada:18988 Date: 2011-03-09T18:22:09-08:00 List-Id: On Mar 8, 2:23=A0pm, Lucretia wrote: > Hi, > > I'm just wondering what it would take for a company to choose Ada as > their next implementation language? One big problem, IMO, is that it seems to be almost impossible for engineers to actually play with Ada (including its all-important tasking and realtime features) on simple embedded hardware. If you could send them home with an under-$200 embedded board (like, say, this one for $12: http://www.st.com/internet/evalboard/product/250863.jsp) and some free plug-and-play tools (limited would be fine), then they could actually get a feel for the benefits of Ada on their own. Some, at least (the clear-thinking ones?) would then become interested in championing Ada in the workplace. But if the engineers can't get their hands on it in a low-cost exploratory fashion, why would they champion it? I am astonished that AdaCore, for example, doesn't offer plug-and-play toolsets for a half-dozen assorted low-end boards, some with graphical LCDs, some with ethernet, some with various analog and digital IOs, just to prime the pump for their products. They should do that and sponsor some contests to help bring future supporters and customers onto the bandwagon.