From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_MSGID autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 111d6b,328622178ec8b832 X-Google-Attributes: gid111d6b,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,8775b19e3c68a5dc X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Thread: 1014db,a03ae7f4e53958e1 X-Google-Attributes: gid1014db,public X-Google-Thread: 10d15b,328622178ec8b832 X-Google-Attributes: gid10d15b,public X-Google-Thread: 114809,a03ae7f4e53958e1 X-Google-Attributes: gid114809,public X-Google-Thread: 109fba,a03ae7f4e53958e1 X-Google-Attributes: gid109fba,public X-Google-Thread: 1094ba,a03ae7f4e53958e1 X-Google-Attributes: gid1094ba,public From: docdwarf@clark.net () Subject: Re: Which language pays most -- C++ vs. Java? Date: 1998/02/12 Message-ID: <6bv3no$b62@clarknet.clark.net>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 324454664 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit References: <6at330$7uj$1@mainsrv.main.nc.us> <6bsddk$3cp$1@news.nyu.edu> <34E23B11.6AD8@erols.com> <6bti3r$e96$1@client3.news.psi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Organization: Clark Internet Services, Inc., Ellicott City, MD USA Newsgroups: comp.lang.java.misc,comp.lang.c,comp.lang.c++,comp.lang.fortran,comp.lang.cobol,comp.lang.smalltalk,comp.lang.ada Date: 1998-02-12T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: In article <6bti3r$e96$1@client3.news.psi.net>, Frank A. Adrian wrote: >The Goobers wrote in message <34E23B11.6AD8@erols.com>... >>Richard Kenner wrote: >>> >>> The more a "programmer" knows, the more "well rounded" they are. >>> I see no reason to set a limit to knowlege in any field: it's always >>> better to know more than to know less. >> >>BLEARGH! >> >>Read this sentence again, please: >> >> 'The more a "programmer" knows, the more "well rounded" they are.' >> >>I realise that you are trying to avoid sex-specification ('The more a >>"programmer" knows, the mofe "well rounded" he/she is.') but you BOTCHED >>it... now, repeat after me: >> >>'Antecedants must agree with their consequent.' >> >>Notice the subtle ha-ha in this 'rule'? 'Antecedants' and 'their' are >>plurals, 'consequent' is a singular... is make for good joke to >>remembering Eenglish to be doing by, no? >> >>In your sentence 'programmer' is singular, 'knows' is singular, 'they' >>and 'are' am be pluralismers. >> >>What *are* they teaching in schools nowadays? >> > >*They* are teaching that in order to be politically correct in this day and >age, in order to sooth ruffled feathers of those who insist on sex neutral >language, one must sometimes wrinkle the ears of fuddy-duddy language >purists with circumlocutions such as the sentence that caused you to go >"BLEARGH!" At times, perhaps, this 'must' be done... in this case I can think of a readily acceptable substitute. Is an abhorrence of lazy thinking another symptom of that which you lable 'fuddy-duddiness'? > In some cases, other fuddy-duddy language purists' ears wrinkle >upon hearing the phrase "his/her" or (even more noveau) the sex neutral >linguistic proposal "te or tis". And, although most fuddy-duddy language >purists *would* prefer that the whole sex-neutral language issue would go >away allowing us to revert to good old masculine singular as a generic >singular term for a person, as with sex the controversy appears to be here >for quite a while longer. > >In short, lighten up, Mr. Language Pedant. Mr? Why do you call me 'Mr'? Permit me to offer you a challenge, Mr Adrian... I say there is a simple, readily accepted substitute for this instance of antecedant/consequent disagreement. I say, further, that you can neither generate it yourself nor, after I generate it, give any passable reason as to *why* this antecedant/consequent disagreement is superior to the alternative that you are obviously unable to generate. Are you up to the challenge, Mr Adrian? Do you say there is *no* acceptable alternative to the abovecited disagreement... or that the failure to find one is just a matter of laziness? DD >-- >Frank A. Adrian >First DataBank >frank_adrian@firstdatabank.com (W) >franka@europa.com (H) >This message does not necessarily reflect those of my employer, >its parent company, or any of the co-subsidiaries of the parent >company. > > >