From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,7684e927a2475d0 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: can one build commercial applications with latest gnat and other licenses related questions... References: <449660f0$0$11077$9b4e6d93@newsread4.arcor-online.net> <1150717184.087134.177850@h76g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1151050924.969806.284410@c74g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <449d2a28$0$11075$9b4e6d93@newsread4.arcor-online.net> <449d5c03$0$11074$9b4e6d93@newsread4.arcor-online.net> From: M E Leypold Date: 24 Jun 2006 20:27:47 +0200 Message-ID: <6bejxeo1cs.fsf@hod.lan.m-e-leypold.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Some cool user agent (SCUG) NNTP-Posting-Host: 88.72.218.241 X-Trace: news.arcor-ip.de 1151173306 88.72.218.241 (24 Jun 2006 20:21:46 +0200) X-Complaints-To: abuse@arcor-ip.de Path: g2news2.google.com!news3.google.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!newsfeed.freenet.de!62.53.226.182.MISMATCH!takemy.news.telefonica.de!telefonica.de!newsfeed.arcor-ip.de!news.arcor-ip.de!not-for-mail Xref: g2news2.google.com comp.lang.ada:4994 Date: 2006-06-24T20:27:47+02:00 List-Id: Hi George, > > I dare say if one follows an argument > > based on a definition that freedom is absence of lock-ins and > > dependencies (...) and ask where and when dependencies arise, one > > would come to a different result. > > The GPL is a deliberate choice that deliberately ignores arguments > that (have to) prefer independence of the GPL terms. As I said, im not interested in continuing that discussion. But for the record I find it necessary to state that the "dependencies" I have been talking about are not "dependencies from the GPL" but dependencies from vendor decisions. I've been talking about library licenses specfically and the vendor decision I'm refering to is of course the (not very well documented) stripping of a linking exception from the license. This is not a personal complaint, just the observation, that people might be a tad surprised after relying on (continued) GMGPL for GtkAda (continued because a change in free software licensing is rather unusual) that the license actually changed a long time ago (which seems not to be common knowledge). Here is a vendor decision that influences not only the future but also the present standing of a project (be it commercial or free in any sense). In my book that spells "dependency". Freedom can be taken back: Not only in the future, but also in the present. How that does impact my work should not be your concern, so please spare me any advice of the kind "I think that your business's need (...)". I'll cope, but I dare to say that the community will be slightly surprised. Which illustrates my point rather well. Regards -- Markus