From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_MSGID autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,2afac1a4161c7f35 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public From: jhopper@erinet.com (James Hopper) Subject: Re: who owns the code? was Re: Distinguishing type names from other identifiers Date: 1998/01/24 Message-ID: <6absu3$jf3@nntp1.erinet.com>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 318779157 Sender: -Not-Authenticated-[5490] References: <69nt40$q7n@top.mitre.org> <69rnvv$ <6a8mir$caa@nn XDisclaimer: User not authenticated Organization: EriNet Online 937 436-1700 (Voice) Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Date: 1998-01-24T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: In article dewar@merv.cs.nyu.edu (Robert Dewar) writes: > You give an example where it doesn't work. So what? I definitely agree > that the model I give does not work in its most extreme form in all > cases. Some of the ingrediants we have discussed are: actually i only elaborated on the most recent problem project i have seen, i have seen it tried in several projects. but i have come to understand that what i saw was bad implementations of this system. But i think where i was not thinking totally clearly about this for my own objectsions is that i belive a task started from scratch should be partitioned into work packets and the work packet largely belongs to a small group or a person until its through unit test when its integrated into the larger system it becomes community property and i agree our folks treat that pretty much like the gnat team. We don't think twice about fixing whatever during integration depending only on our ability to get it done right as richard claims. I guess what i am saying is i think i understand your position better now and as you say i don't think we differ by much if anything on this issue robert at least for my own team, but i have seen a lot of teams who are NOT capable of this ACT and trying to force it on them is a recipe for disaster. You need assess your people as a manager before deciding on how this is going to work before starting, and not just your people the managers are probably more critical to the success of this than the people. jim