From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Received: by 10.224.93.19 with SMTP id t19mr9547681qam.3.1379916733029; Sun, 22 Sep 2013 23:12:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.49.38.10 with SMTP id c10mr3194qek.19.1379916732995; Sun, 22 Sep 2013 23:12:12 -0700 (PDT) Path: eternal-september.org!reader01.eternal-september.org!reader02.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!news.glorb.com!d5no1572759qap.0!news-out.google.com!gv3ni1143qab.0!nntp.google.com!d5no1572756qap.0!postnews.google.com!glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2013 23:12:12 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com; posting-host=105.236.242.232; posting-account=p-xPhAkAAADjHQWEO7sFME2XBdF1P_2H NNTP-Posting-Host: 105.236.242.232 References: <2f813569-5ff8-4c20-a5ab-8538e6514906@googlegroups.com> User-Agent: G2/1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <6a978d1c-1922-448b-91f7-cf8a19eab1fd@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Anti-Ada FUD (rant) From: Peter Brooks Injection-Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2013 06:12:13 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Xref: news.eternal-september.org comp.lang.ada:17229 Date: 2013-09-22T23:12:12-07:00 List-Id: On Monday, 23 September 2013 07:55:53 UTC+2, Shark8 wrote: >=20 > > The power of Unix is mainly down to the brilliant invention of fork and= exec - they're what led to sockets and the elegance of TCP/IP compared to = other protocols of the time.=20 >=20 > Fork and Exec led to sockets and TCP/IP? I'm sorry, but I seriously don't= see the connection there. >=20 Look up the way sockets work and you'll see - TCP/IP is based on exactly th= at socket architecture. The fork/exec idea is what makes sockets elegant, not that they look like f= iles, though that has its advantages and disadvantages. > > > This is particularly evident if you look at the horlicks that MSDOS mak= es of networking, even DOS version Windows 7. >=20 > That's flat-out false: Windows XP, 2000, and 7 are all descended from the= NT Kernel, which means they *aren't* impacted by the design of DOS/Win3/Wi= n95/Win98. (But that they are as compatible as they are to programs from th= at branch of development shows how much effort and care went into building = the compatibility layer.) > All as badly designed, which is why I said it, and also, as I said, why the= networking is such a mess.