From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, PP_MIME_FAKE_ASCII_TEXT autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII X-Google-Thread: 103376,88ed72d98e6b3457 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2003-10-06 17:23:31 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news-out1.nntp.be!propagator2-sterling!news-in-sterling.nuthinbutnews.com!cyclone1.gnilink.net!spamkiller2.gnilink.net!nwrdny02.gnilink.net.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail From: "Stephane Richard" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada References: <3F7F760E.2020901@comcast.net> <3F8035B0.7080902@noplace.com> <3F816A35.4030108@noplace.com> <3F81FBEC.9010103@noplace.com> Subject: Re: Standard Library Interest? X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Message-ID: <6Ingb.30667$541.13861@nwrdny02.gnilink.net> Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2003 00:23:30 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.44.82.24 X-Complaints-To: abuse@verizon.net X-Trace: nwrdny02.gnilink.net 1065486210 129.44.82.24 (Mon, 06 Oct 2003 20:23:30 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2003 20:23:30 EDT Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:351 Date: 2003-10-07T00:23:30+00:00 List-Id: "Marin David Condic" wrote in message news:3F81FBEC.9010103@noplace.com... > O.K. Maybe we have a difference of opinion, but that's all right. I'm > willing to be persuaded, but I think that *some* scheme for a library is > a good thing. How would you address the concern that if you make it part > of the standard, it is etched in stone and you can't do anything about > adding to it or fixing it for ten years? How would you create a climate > wherein a developer can count on getting *something* but isn't frozen > out of new developments, good ideas, enhancements, etc.? > > You can have an absolute standard that is good for stability or you can > have a totally fluid environment that reacts quickly to changes. > Somewhere in the middle should be a useful compromise. > > MDC > Maybe I read it wrong, but to me what should be in the ARM as a standard shouldn't define the end of life, but how life should begin (cheap attempt at a metaphore here...awaiting flying tomatoes ;-). By that I mean that the standard from what I've seen don't tell you the end of the language's possibilities, but ranther the beginning of them, on which to build enhancements. And that any addition to the standard should reflect the definition of the language itself. Let's take an example here, say we wanted to adda GUI library to Ada as a standard, I would be more tempted to add say wxWindows, or maybe GTK ada because the follow in the phylosophy of ada as being multiplatform, expandable, etc etc..if we were to code our own GUI library independant of all existing ones, it would have to be exactly the same, multiplatform, expandable, and everything else that is expected of Ada. This may not be the best example, but it is an example that reflects my thoughts :-). To me that's what a standard should define, and it is what it defines so far, not the end of things, but their beginnings. As such, of course a good strong stable foundation is always better to build on than a weak one. -- St�phane Richard "Ada World" Webmaster http://www.adaworld.com