From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.2 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM, FROM_STARTS_WITH_NUMS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Received: by 2002:a24:d1c2:: with SMTP id w185-v6mr11923010itg.43.1524669905423; Wed, 25 Apr 2018 08:25:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 2002:a9d:620d:: with SMTP id g13-v6mr846579otj.3.1524669905254; Wed, 25 Apr 2018 08:25:05 -0700 (PDT) Path: eternal-september.org!reader01.eternal-september.org!reader02.eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!weretis.net!feeder4.news.weretis.net!newsreader5.netcologne.de!news.netcologne.de!peer01.ams1!peer.ams1.xlned.com!news.xlned.com!peer02.am4!peer.am4.highwinds-media.com!peer03.iad!feed-me.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!f63-v6no4806237itc.0!news-out.google.com!15-v6ni5565itg.0!nntp.google.com!k65-v6no4803990ita.0!postnews.google.com!glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2018 08:25:04 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com; posting-host=85.240.220.65; posting-account=rhqvKAoAAABpikMmPHJSZh4400BboHwT NNTP-Posting-Host: 85.240.220.65 References: <0cef0914-30b1-4139-a341-40e8f32f85d9@googlegroups.com> <96a1828a-a1bc-43c3-b51c-434a257e1e8f@googlegroups.com> User-Agent: G2/1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <69c72041-01c1-4080-b4d8-8b3aeb113375@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: grassroots level SPARK Initiation From: Mehdi Saada <00120260a@gmail.com> Injection-Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2018 15:25:05 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Received-Bytes: 2599 X-Received-Body-CRC: 241127196 Xref: reader02.eternal-september.org comp.lang.ada:51700 Date: 2018-04-25T08:25:04-07:00 List-Id: My problem is untold difficulty with algorithms. Even-though I may understa= nd easily how they operate in natural language (say, binary search through = a sorted container), I cannot code it: more than 25+ lines (of myself), and= I don't understand it anymore. Then I'm "forced" to tweak things here and = there, until it works. I know I shouldn't debug like this, and I hate it to= o. especially not knowing what I do. I'm self-taught. You see, I have way much more perseverance than talentedness. Probaly a tad= less naturally talented than your average student. Hence I would like to h= ave the logical structure of I write/would like to write buried in my mind = before touching the keyboard. To make things as mechanical as possible, for= the moment at least. I saw there was a thing called "propositional" calculus: is it covered by G= ries book ? Were you a patented programmer before reading it ? I read the p= rerequisite is "one year of experience", but I'm not sure what it entails. = One year of being able to actually code for living ? Well, I found it free on the web, I'll see for myself. And start train math= and logical reasoning elsewhere too.