From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_MSGID autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 111d6b,328622178ec8b832 X-Google-Attributes: gid111d6b,public X-Google-Thread: 1014db,a03ae7f4e53958e1 X-Google-Attributes: gid1014db,public X-Google-Thread: 10d15b,328622178ec8b832 X-Google-Attributes: gid10d15b,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,8775b19e3c68a5dc X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Thread: 114809,a03ae7f4e53958e1 X-Google-Attributes: gid114809,public X-Google-Thread: 109fba,a03ae7f4e53958e1 X-Google-Attributes: gid109fba,public X-Google-Thread: 1094ba,a03ae7f4e53958e1 X-Google-Attributes: gid1094ba,public From: seebs@plethora.net (Peter Seebach) Subject: Re: Which language pays most 17457 -- C++ vs. Java? Date: 1997/12/18 Message-ID: <67ccvl$iqj$1@darla.visi.com>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 299487263 References: <199712121931.LAA25389@sirius.infonex.com> <349745D3.F4AA0460@seasoned-software.com> <34994D43.6858@ici.net> <01bd0c0b$53cc1860$26db45cf@juddesk> Organization: Plethora Internet NNTP-Posting-Date: 18 Dec 1997 17:52:21 CST Newsgroups: comp.lang.java.misc,comp.lang.c,comp.lang.c++,comp.lang.fortran,comp.lang.cobol,comp.lang.smalltalk,comp.lang.ada Date: 1997-12-18T17:52:21-06:00 List-Id: In article <01bd0c0b$53cc1860$26db45cf@juddesk>, Judson McClendon wrote: >C is a *horrible* first language! If you actually think learning C as a >first language makes it easier, then you are running around out in the weeds >somewhere, looking for home. You either 1) don't know C, or 2) don't know >anything else. Talking about the 'number of keywords' in C, as if that were >the difficulty issue, is farcical! I dunno; I actually found C very easy to learn. When I was a kid, I could read C, even though I never wrote any back then. It's *obvious*. >How are you going to teach them to input >or output anything without getting into the standard functions? You're not. So? How are ou going to teach people to input or output anything in basic without getting into "PRINT"? >Many people have trouble abstracting their logic. Yes, and I doubt any of them will ever be successful or good programmers. I was raised by mathematicians; I always thought C was a very friendly laguage. -s -- seebs@plethora.net -- I am not speaking for my employer. Copyright '97 All rights reserved. This was not sent by my cat. C and Unix wizard - send mail for help, or send money for a consultation. Visit my new ISP --- More Net, Less Spam! Plethora . Net