From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Received: by 2002:a24:5c81:: with SMTP id q123mr3116238itb.34.1553042948023; Tue, 19 Mar 2019 17:49:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 2002:a9d:30d2:: with SMTP id r18mr3860708otg.176.1553042947727; Tue, 19 Mar 2019 17:49:07 -0700 (PDT) Path: eternal-september.org!reader01.eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!news.gegeweb.eu!gegeweb.org!usenet-fr.net!proxad.net!feeder1-2.proxad.net!209.85.166.216.MISMATCH!w126no29445ita.0!news-out.google.com!l81ni70itl.0!nntp.google.com!w126no29443ita.0!postnews.google.com!glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2019 17:49:07 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87h8c1igzq.fsf@nightsong.com> Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com; posting-host=96.255.209.31; posting-account=zwxLlwoAAAChLBU7oraRzNDnqQYkYbpo NNTP-Posting-Host: 96.255.209.31 References: <6e1977a5-701e-4b4f-a937-a1b89d9127f0@googlegroups.com> <87h8c1igzq.fsf@nightsong.com> User-Agent: G2/1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <662f4d10-bca5-4414-8b71-e6a7ae2fc78d@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Intervention needed? From: Optikos Injection-Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2019 00:49:08 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Xref: reader01.eternal-september.org comp.lang.ada:55906 Date: 2019-03-19T17:49:07-07:00 List-Id: On Sunday, March 17, 2019 at 12:49:00 PM UTC-4, Paul Rubin wrote: > Optikos writes: > > I am sorry to hear that the hope for Ada being the 2nd language (not > > counting the Draconian SPARK variant) to achieve Rust's level of > > pointer safety has been abandoned. > > http://www.ats-lang.org/ ? Paul, how similar or dissimilar to (SPARK + Ada) do you think (ATS's proof mode + ATS's programming mode) is? My sense is that ATS is doing something substantially different than SPARK, but perhaps I need to look more deeply at ATS.