From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, REPLYTO_WITHOUT_TO_CC autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,dbd35bb508093bd9 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2002-12-07 16:09:39 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!wn13feed!wn11feed!worldnet.att.net!bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Reply-To: "James S. Rogers" From: "James S. Rogers" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada References: <3df17093_1@news.tm.net.my> Subject: Re: OT Hatred (was Re: New Ada compiler for .NET) X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: <65wI9.42818$vM1.3404322@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> Date: Sun, 08 Dec 2002 00:09:38 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 12.86.38.63 X-Complaints-To: abuse@worldnet.att.net X-Trace: bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net 1039306178 12.86.38.63 (Sun, 08 Dec 2002 00:09:38 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 08 Dec 2002 00:09:38 GMT Organization: AT&T Worldnet Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:31541 Date: 2002-12-08T00:09:38+00:00 List-Id: "Chad R. Meiners" wrote in message news:asth1t$2udb$1@msunews.cl.msu.edu... > > "Adrian Hoe" wrote in message > news:3df17093_1@news.tm.net.my... > > Chad R. Meiners wrote: > > > > But, largely, the adult American can take actions using their votes. > > They used their votes to bring down Mr. Carter (he received Nobel > > Peace price recently) many years ago. Now, they can do it again to > > bring down this cow boy. > > You cannot hold an individual voter responsible for the government's actions > because voting is anonymous. > > > I saw a documentary by Phoenix TV from China. It is a documentary film > > on Iraq. The American or to be fair, the US Military used poor uranium > > bombs on Iraqi soils. The Iraqi soils and water are contaminated with > > radiation. After the war, one million children died of cancer in 5 > > years time. All the bombs totally used were 6 times the atomic bombs > > in Nagasaki during 2nd world war. To my knowledge, the only depleted uranium exposure in Iraq was from the cannon shells fired by the A10 Warthog. These are not bombs. They were fired mostly at Iraqi tanks. What are 1 million Iraqi children doing playing in destroyed tanks? The "bunker buster" bombs used in Iraq contained no depleted uranium. They were rather hastily constructed by packing explosives into howitzer cannon barrels. The bombs worked because the strength of the barrels allowed the bomb to retain is basic shape while burrowing through several meters of concrete. > > That sounds like a biased news source. It sounds like you've been mislead. > This is one of the real problems ignorance causes. People tend to believe > what they want to hear and not question the information sources. Would you > stop opposing the US if you discovered that this news report isn't true. > No, probably not since it is obvious that you are ready to believe anything > negative about the US. Look at those statistics; they make no sense. These > are obvious traits of an unreliable information source. What is a poor > uranium bomb anyway? Sounds like a ambiguous term specially developed to > twist the truth and get people's blood boiling. It sounds like propaganda. > > > Is it fair that the US can use any kind of nuclear weapons on its so > > called enemies and the enemies are not allowed to? What use we have UN > > and no nude treaties? Bullshit! In fact the US would love to eliminate its nuclear arsenal. Unfortunately, such a move is impractical when so many countries are doing their best to increase their own nuclear capability. People who hate the US today would not stop hating it tomorrow if we destroyed all our nuclear capability. > > > > Big countries like US, Australia and their allies are becoming the > > barbarians of 21st century. They claim their rights to launch military > > campaign on foreign soils to attack "suspected" terrorist > > establishment. They cowardly bomb targets from UAV using missiles from > > high above the sky. This is war. This challenges the sovereignty of > > the attacked contries. Be careful of the accusation of cowardice. It is a form of manure that can be thrown in any direction. What about the cowardice of organizations that bomb night clubs filled with people? > > > > Can you do this to the people of that country and provide them > > technology after the war? What use? If I lost my children and home, I > > would rather have blood to pay for blood. This is never ending story > > and terrorism will go on and on forever. Look at the hatred in the Middle East. The people there still talk about revenge for the Crusades of the Middle Ages. They seem to forget that Europe only sent troops to the area after the Moslims attacked and destroyed an area occupied mostly by Christians. Apparently, in their minds, it is evil to resist oppression. > > No, terrorism goes on and on because ignorance allows people to convince > people to take out their grief and hatred on innocents. > > > I hope this is not going to > > happen on me. But no one can guarantee my hope will not be shattered > > one day. Who is going to be responsible if they turn me into a > > terrorist? If I have children at home, do you think I want to have > > explosive tied to my body and turn myself into suicide bomber? Think! True. I am sure the thousands of people who worked in the World Trade Center did not want their lives shattered either. Who is responsible for turning their families and friends into terrorists? The only thing that can stop the cycle of terrorism is a belief in a higher good; something better and more important than revenge. Some religions offer this. Some do not. > > > If you still have conscience and you (c.l.a.) claim you are a group of > > intelligent software engineers, exercise your vote now to bring down > > the cow boy! > I do not know any cowboy. The President of the United States is acting as honorably as any leader can under the circumstances. He has not acted irrationally since the United States has come under direct attack. He has been honest, and tough. He has also been fair. He has given first the Taliban, and now the Iraqi regime, a bloodless diplomatic way out of the problem. The Taliban chose war. We will soon see which choice is made by the Iraqi regime. Jim Rogers