From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.4 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,INVALID_MSGID autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 10261c,90121986704b5776 X-Google-Attributes: gid10261c,public X-Google-Thread: 1014db,4873305131bf4d94 X-Google-Attributes: gid1014db,public X-Google-Thread: fdb77,4873305131bf4d94 X-Google-Attributes: gidfdb77,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,4873305131bf4d94 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Thread: 10c950,90121986704b5776 X-Google-Attributes: gid10c950,public X-Google-Thread: 109fba,4873305131bf4d94 X-Google-Attributes: gid109fba,public From: "Larry Elmore" Subject: Re: Your english sucks, mine is better. Date: 1997/11/30 Message-ID: <65s2f5$8q0@netra.montana.edu>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 293911940 References: <65ab3u$v07$1@news.nyu.edu> <3479B4F1.D575BEFC@SomewhereElse.com> <01bcf94a$43fbc1c0$LocalHost@default> <65dsjd$6gq@netra.montana.edu> <65patf$fma@netra.montana.edu> <65s1u8$8kj@netra.montana.edu> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Organization: montana.edu Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada,comp.lang.c,comp.lang.c++,comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.lang.pascal.ansi-iso,comp.lang.pascal.misc Date: 1997-11-30T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: Larry Elmore wrote in message <65s1u8$8kj@netra.montana.edu>... billg@jk.pst.com wrote in message ... >In article <65patf$fma@netra.montana.edu>, >ljelmore@montana.campus.mci.net says... >> billg@jk.pst.com wrote in message ... >> >All said, I think those judgements occur because it is realized that the >business owners in general attain much of their money via the labor of >others and should forfeit (give it to its rightful owners) some of it. So morons who misuse products are "the rightful owners" of wealth? >> Besides, this kind of crap (false advertising, etc) has gone on ever since >> any kind of trade went on, long before capitalism ever existed. Just because >> capitalism hasn't eliminated it, the whole problem is capitalism's fault? >> Get real. It's a problem of human nature, not capitalism. I don't know of >> _any_ other system that has done any better, so why aren't you criticizing >> them, too? You remind me of the "useful idiots" that were outraged by each >> and every abuse in South Africa, and yet turned a blind eye to far worse >> outrages in black-ruled African countries... > >Well, at least I'm useful. :) I meant to say "rightfully outraged" (re: South Africa). But it was stupid to get so upset _only_ about SA because it was whites vs. blacks when there was _much_ worse black vs. black violence (tribe vs. tribe, actually) in a lot of other countries that was just _ignored_. >I don't have enough information on the the other systems and I don't have >to live with them directly either. Well, you _should_ get to know them. You might find the alternatives to be far worse than what you've got... >Capitalistic behaviour is exploitive- >-and the more you are willing to (are able to) exploit (and extort) the >more "successful" you will become. The model is best exampled by the >scenario where eastern slave-labor produces products for a garment >company who then sells them at unheard of markups for the owner's >benefit. The mainstream (capitalistic company) is more subtle but those >characteristics are always there. The IT agency model is based on the >same exploitive principles, and that one really hits home. This is just beautiful. The clothiers are more evil than the government that enslaved the workers in the first place (and are making a tidy sum of money themselves)... Granted, I think the companies and countries doing business with such countries are despicable. I will not buy anything that is made in certain countries. There are some companies I will not buy anything from, no matter where the product was made. Larry