From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Received: by 10.99.136.66 with SMTP id l63mr9334190pgd.27.1498736163037; Thu, 29 Jun 2017 04:36:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.36.125.65 with SMTP id b62mr61568itc.5.1498736162946; Thu, 29 Jun 2017 04:36:02 -0700 (PDT) Path: eternal-september.org!reader01.eternal-september.org!reader02.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!news.glorb.com!188no67065itx.0!news-out.google.com!s132ni1606itb.0!nntp.google.com!v202no638itb.0!postnews.google.com!glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2017 04:36:02 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com; posting-host=2a02:c7d:3c35:b000:325a:3aff:fe0f:37a5; posting-account=L2-UcQkAAAAfd_BqbeNHs3XeM0jTXloS NNTP-Posting-Host: 2a02:c7d:3c35:b000:325a:3aff:fe0f:37a5 References: <1813789782.509760763.093426.laguest-archeia.com@nntp.aioe.org> <87varxjouh.fsf@nightsong.com> <250466748.510009784.561340.laguest-archeia.com@nntp.aioe.org> <87fuelzvcq.fsf@jacob-sparre.dk> <4e60ac97-7f4f-47e7-847a-e27983accd4b@googlegroups.com> <57c26106-4e4f-464f-83e9-fe52de614cd7@googlegroups.com> User-Agent: G2/1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <6529c392-f042-4dfe-8cdb-b785406ad788@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: State of the compiler market From: Lucretia Injection-Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2017 11:36:03 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Xref: news.eternal-september.org comp.lang.ada:47171 Date: 2017-06-29T04:36:02-07:00 List-Id: On Thursday, 29 June 2017 06:46:46 UTC+1, gautier...@hotmail.com wrote: > > > Some people have been saying this for years, but how long it long enough to wait? I think it's worth starting to look at this now. > > > > > > Luke > > > > I think it might be. > > One thing that might be good to do is look into how to make the language smaller [...] > > Probably the best is to make a branch of GNAT, call your new language "Beb" (you'd have then Beb.Text_IO, Beb.Numerics, etc.) and start experimenting with it. > I'd have a few wishes like: > - rename String to Fixed_String and Unbounded_String to String > - make Sin, Cos, Log, etc. automatically visible just like "*" for floating-point types God no! Remove character and string from standard. Introduce code_points and unicode strings, add "net" packages, add "xml" packages. Basically all the text based stuff the modern world uses and every other language gets for free. Add a "UI" package so that we can do Object Pascal type stuff easily. Ada can easily do UI or graphics, yet all that stuff in planes is handled by C++, why? Possibly change the coding styles a bit to try to appeal to the C crowd. Remove access types in functions, allow in out in them. Allow custom types to have 'Image and other similar attributes. That's just a start, but this would really need to be a new language in the same vein as Ada, not a fork.