From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_MSGID autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 10261c,90121986704b5776 X-Google-Attributes: gid10261c,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,4873305131bf4d94 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Thread: 109fba,4873305131bf4d94 X-Google-Attributes: gid109fba,public X-Google-Thread: fdb77,4873305131bf4d94 X-Google-Attributes: gidfdb77,public X-Google-Thread: 10c950,90121986704b5776 X-Google-Attributes: gid10c950,public X-Google-Thread: 1014db,4873305131bf4d94 X-Google-Attributes: gid1014db,public From: "John Rickard" Subject: Re: ADA ,Pascal, and Basic ROCK! C,C++, and Java are nothing you need!! Date: 1997/11/08 Message-ID: <640qs8$cd7@bgtnsc02.worldnet.att.net>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 288361946 References: <34557f2b.1934172@news.mindspring.com> <34566fe9.447229@news.mindspring.com> <345673af.1413708@news.mindspring.com> <3456b9f3.0@news.eznet.net> <3456e71b.3833189@news.mindspring.com> <34591365.7E53@gsg.eds.com> <3462889F.625B4D36@flash.net> Organization: Pascal Programmer Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada,comp.lang.c,comp.lang.c++,comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.lang.pascal.ansi-iso,comp.lang.pascal.misc Date: 1997-11-08T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: -- -- Remove .DONTSPAMME from my email address to send me REAL email. -- John Stevens wrote in article ... : On Thu, 06 Nov 1997 21:18:55 -0600, Charles R. Lyttle wrote: : >John Stevens wrote: : >> I may, in fact, be impossible to create anything other than a semi-OO : >> language, or at best, a Hybrid OO language, with out starting from : >> a blank slate. : >> : >> John S. : > : >Ada was not an OO language. It was Object Based. Quiet a difference and the : >difference was deliberate. : : Why so? : : >Many of the OO constructs make any big appliation : >"brittle" and reduce safety. : : How so? : : >I am not fully convienced that all the Ada95 : >changes were a good idea, but they do make it more Object Oriented and it is : >still a lot better than C++. : : If Ada is the language best suited to producing portable, sold, safe : programs, and OO constructs make an application brittle, then why : would the new standard include them? : : Seems like they lost track of their purpose. : : >Have you noticed that as time goes by, Ada looks : >more like C++ and C++ looks more like Ada? I mean Templates for pity sake. : : Templates. Fagh! This is something I never use. : : To allow portability to the greatest number of compilers, I try never to : use stuff that sits to close to the "edge", if you know what I mean. : : John S. :