From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_40,INVALID_MSGID autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 1014db,4873305131bf4d94 X-Google-Attributes: gid1014db,public X-Google-Thread: fdb77,4873305131bf4d94 X-Google-Attributes: gidfdb77,public X-Google-Thread: 109fba,4873305131bf4d94 X-Google-Attributes: gid109fba,public X-Google-Thread: 10c950,90121986704b5776 X-Google-Attributes: gid10c950,public X-Google-Thread: 10261c,90121986704b5776 X-Google-Attributes: gid10261c,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,4873305131bf4d94 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public From: kaz@helios.crest.nt.com (Kaz Kylheku) Subject: Re: ADA and Pascal SUCK, C,C++, and Java are the only languages you need!! Date: 1997/11/06 Message-ID: <63teu9$s4o$1@helios.crest.nt.com>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 287501373 References: <34557f2b.1934172@news.mindspring.com> <63atai$v3r$1@helios.crest.nt.com> Organization: A poorly-installed InterNetNews site Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada,comp.lang.c,comp.lang.c++,comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.lang.pascal.ansi-iso,comp.lang.pascal.misc Date: 1997-11-06T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: In article , John Stevens wrote: >On 30 Oct 1997 13:13:54 -0800, Kaz Kylheku wrote: >>Telecommunication management software is large and complex, but not safety >>critical, > >"HELLO!!??? 911??!! Damn, the software controlling the switch crashed >again!" ;-> Embedded software which controls switches is distinct from TMN. TMN typically runs on workstations and gives operators a map with blinking lights which enables them to identify crises on the network and take action. The software works essentially by monitoring the network elements for traffic reports and alarms, and it not only identifies acute crises but can provide statistics which can assist with planning future network expansion. That's sort of the general thing that I would understand as ``telecommunication network management''. If network management fails, your call to 911 might not go through as a result of the failure of the telco to identify and correct network problems such as congestion or out of service trunks, or some failure in the signalling network, etc, not as a direct result of the failure of the software. >>and quasi-real-time at best. Shut-down software for a nuclear reactor >>may be less complex, but requires much more verification. > >But in the end, it is the programmer and the quality assurance procedures >that make the difference, not language choice. If there is such thing as THE difference rather than a whole bunch of smaller differences. :) The question is the extent to which the language choice plays a role. -- "In My Egotistical Opinion, most people's C programs should be indented six feet downward and covered with dirt." -- Blair P. Houghton