From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_MSGID autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 11390f,4c42ac518eba0bbe X-Google-Attributes: gid11390f,public X-Google-Thread: 1014db,4c42ac518eba0bbe X-Google-Attributes: gid1014db,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,4c42ac518eba0bbe X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Thread: 109fba,4c42ac518eba0bbe X-Google-Attributes: gid109fba,public From: seebs@plethora.net (Peter Seebach) Subject: Re: Programming language vote - results Date: 1997/10/25 Message-ID: <62tpap$7gh$1@darla.visi.com>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 284958226 References: <343fbb5a.0@news.iprolink.ch> <34466EB4.3381@dynamite.com.au> <6275dt$agm$3@news.on> <344BCED0.2D51@dynamite.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Date: 25 Oct 1997 16:46:01 CDT Organization: Plethora Internet Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada,comp.lang.apl,comp.lang.c,comp.lang.c++ Date: 1997-10-25T16:46:01-05:00 List-Id: In article <344BCED0.2D51@dynamite.com.au>, Alan E & Carmel J Brain wrote: >Hence my preference for Ada. When listening to C weenies - er - >enthusiasts talking about how their code is so tight, so efficient, and >above all so impenetrable that it's obviously superior to another >solution (in Ada so clear that "Any Fool could have written that"), I >have to take a dried-frog pill and count to 10. Can you honestly point to anyone claiming that "impenetrable" is a sign of superiority out of the IOCCC? Efficient is good. Tight can be good. Impenetrable is generally not good. I disagree with at least the implications of your conclusion. Writing, on purpose, impenetrable, bad, inefficient, and ugly code is one of the best ways to comprehend good code better. It's all well and good to say "look, here's a good way to do this". It's just as good to say "and look, here's a bad way". You can't understand fully what makes good code good without understanding just as fully what makes bad code bad. -s -- seebs@plethora.net -- Speaking for myself. No spam please. Copyright 1997. All rights reserved. This was not written by my cat. C/Unix wizard - send mail for help! --- http://www.plethora.net/~seebs http://www.plethora.net/ - More Net, Less Spam!