From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_05,INVALID_MSGID autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: fd7c9,4c42ac518eba0bbe X-Google-Attributes: gidfd7c9,public X-Google-Thread: 109fba,4c42ac518eba0bbe X-Google-Attributes: gid109fba,public X-Google-Thread: 1094ba,4c42ac518eba0bbe X-Google-Attributes: gid1094ba,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,4c42ac518eba0bbe X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Thread: 11390f,4c42ac518eba0bbe X-Google-Attributes: gid11390f,public X-Google-Thread: 1014db,4c42ac518eba0bbe X-Google-Attributes: gid1014db,public From: brashear@ns1.sw-eng.falls-church.va.us (Philip Brashear) Subject: Re: Programming language vote - results Date: 1997/10/14 Message-ID: <61vo26$8b1@ns1.sw-eng.falls-church.va.us>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 280362807 References: <343fbb5a.0@news.iprolink.ch> <3441B496.41C6@lmco.com> <34424524.B8C67C@kaiwan.com> <34428215.41C6@lmco.com> Organization: None Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada,comp.lang.apl,comp.lang.c,comp.lang.c++,comp.lang.forth,comp.lang.fortran Date: 1997-10-14T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: In article <34428215.41C6@lmco.com>, Jack Rudd wrote: >safetran wrote: >> >> Can you provide more info about why the project got cancelled ? > >The short answer is, inability to meet cost and schedule constraints. >One large contributing factor to this was the use of OO in Ada by >a team that had no previous experience with OO in Ada. The other >contributing factors are irrelevant to this thread. > >> I have been using Ada quite successfully since about 1991 - non >> defense/non aerospace companies. The projects are _hard_ real-time, >> embedded (we design our own embedded hardware) and safety critical. In >> fact being safety critical, the software _has_ to meet its deadlines >> otherwise there could be some serious problems :) >> >Fine. I have no quarrel with success. How did your team perform the >first time using OO in Ada? Was it on a small project? > >Jack Rudd And there you have it. Projects that use Ada (or C or COBOL or ...) appropriately succeed. Projects that use Ada as if it were C or Ada as if it were COBOL or C as if it were COBOL or ... don't. Blame the management, blame the designers, blame the programmers ... But why blame the language? If the shoe doesn't fit (or if you don't know how to lace it), don't wear it! Phil