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From: "Kenneth W. Sodemann" <kwsodema@avistainc.com>
Subject: Re: Can Ada by popularized faster ?
Date: 1997/10/10
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Dave Wood wrote in message <343DF700.87754946@sd.aonix.com>...
>safetran wrote:
>> How many vendors have products
>> that compare with Microsoft VC++ or Borland C++ and at a comparable
>> price ?
>
>I can think of one, and their name (unchanged for nearly a year
>now) starts with an A, ends with an X, and has ONI in the middle.

As a casual user of OA (Pro version) (we use a different Ada environment at
work, but I bought OA for use at home), and a user of several different C++
environments, I must disagree with statement to some extent.

1.)  OA Pro costs about twice what I could get VC++ Pro for.  This can be
expected, of course, mainly due to volume, and the fact that you can find
deals on VC++ just by turning around.  Still, I thought I would point this
out, as it means that it is not offered at a "comparable price".

2.)  In order for OA to really compare to VC++, the pro version ought to
come with three items that it currently does not:
   a.)  MFC bindings.
   b.)  Wizards for those binding.
   c.)  Some "Resource Workshop" type of program.
Item 2.c could be fully integrated (like App Studio in VC++) or not (like RW
in BC++), but either way, it should be there.  This would _really_ go a long
way in making your product comparable with VC++.

3.)  On a note related to 2.c -- keeping the GUI builder that comes with OA
at this time would be OK for folks currently using it, but I personally
would find the MFC binding / Wizards / RW -- AppStudio combination to be
much more useful.

In short, the current Aonix offering is more akin to Watcom than to VC++ or
BC++.  IOW, it's not bad, but it has a ways to go yet.

Side question for Dave:  If I were to purchase the MFC bindings OA (which I
am assuming I can do without going all the way to the enterprise edition),
do those come with some sort of "wizard" or "builder" package, or do I just
get the raw bindings?

(reply posted and e-mailed).

Thanks;
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