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On Sun, 04 May 2003 22:28:37 -0500, Wesley Groleau
<wesgroleau@despammed.com> wrote:

>
>> Dec never made an Ada 95 for VMS.  I just learned that Rational Rose
>> RealTime doesn't speak Ada.  What's with that?  If you can't generate
>> code automatically from one of the most popular UML tools in
>> existence, what does that say?
>
>I last worked on VMS when DEC Ada 3.0 came out.  It was Ada 83
>but it had and "abstract" feature that had some similarities
>to the abstract constructs in Ada 95.  No, DEC did not make an
>Ada 95 for VMS, but they did hire ACT to make it for them and
>they put their "label" on it.
>
>Rose _does_ generate Ada.

Rose RealTime is what is of interest to me, and, from the horse's
mouth at the Rational booth at the Software Technology Conference last
week in Salt Lake City, it doesn't generate code automatically in Ada
- just (C? C++? I forget, but definitely not Ada.)


>I have not seen whether it's "good"
>Ada.  I kind of doubt it, since the general approach of Rose
>is _obviously_ oriented toward C++

And Rational is supposedly _heavily_ into Ada.  And their tool doesn't
do RT Ada?  Not a good sign.