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From: pattis@june.cs.washington.edu (Richard Pattis)
Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada
Subject: Educational Site License For PCs
Keywords: Solicitations, Experience
Message-ID: <6121@june.cs.washington.edu>
Date: 18 Oct 88 21:38:41 GMT
Organization: U of Washington, Computer Science, Seattle
List-Id: <comp.lang.ada>


  The introductory courses here at UW have switched from Modula-2 to Ada as
of this Autumn.  In previous years, my students have bought about 60 Logitech
student packages per year (at $50) for their home use.  Many have PC to AT
class machines with 640K RAM and a hard disk.  We expect Ada to trickle up
to our upper division classes (data structures, compilers - we already use
Fischer/LeBlanc, graphics), and we would like to have these students do as
much computing as possible on their home machines.  We have purchased DEC-Ada
for our computer center's 8600, which with our standard load tends to compile
at about 800 lpm (real time minutes, not CPU minutes).

  The PC Ada compiler vendors want to avoid single sales and go the site
license route.  Their prices seem high but reasonable (when compared with the
$3K/year my students spend, and the price of a single package purchase) but
they need their money up front, in a lump sum. I'm trying to locate some deep
pockets, and I believe that I will eventually succeed.  Based on this belief,
I'd like to hear about (1) experiences with Meridian and Janus Ada, or any
other PC compilers; the recent AdaIC lists a company named AETECH, with some
validated PC compilers, but there is no address/phone number. (2) experience
with negotiating site licenses, or any other relevant information about them.

  I'd like to repost whatever information I receive, so if you do not want
your reply reposted, please say so.

Rich Pattis