From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_MSGID autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 109fba,94f5b26bc297a928 X-Google-Attributes: gid109fba,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,7a6a623afb38d7f7 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Thread: 1094ba,7a6a623afb38d7f7 X-Google-Attributes: gid1094ba,public From: rhawkins@iastate.edu (Rick Hawkins) Subject: Re: Fortran vs C++ vs. etc (has little to do with realtime anymore) Date: 1997/09/16 Message-ID: <5vmbdl$v8f$1@news.iastate.edu>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 272981686 References: <5ve7c6$f4m$1@info.uah.edu> Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa USA Newsgroups: comp.lang.c++,comp.lang.fortran,comp.lang.ada Date: 1997-09-16T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: In article <5ve7c6$f4m$1@info.uah.edu>, Dr. Krishnan Chittur wrote: >Joseph M. O'Leary (NOSPAMjmoleary@earthlink.net) wrote: > >: Jeffrey Templon wrote in article >: > The fact remains (and will for some time) that many scientific >: programmers >: > are scientists FIRST and programmers SECOND. >........ >: > So one of my reasons for Fortran still being around: you can write >: > a reasonable program which runs reasonably efficiently just by more >: > or less typing in an expression of a simple algorithm. Fortran's "mental >: > model" of the computer is very simple. >Well said! ... I still have to find an environment that will allow >me to develop a GUI as simply as I can write Fortran Code to >do calculations ... if there is one, please let me know. yes!!! learning c++ after not using c for ten years took some work. Fortran after 12 years didn't; I could sit back donw and code. I'm not going to knock c++; it's wonderful for where it belongs. But for my fairly simple models that just need numbers pounded into submission, and which won't be reused, Fortran is *much* easier, if for no other reason than high-level I/O. I was spending 2/3 of my time in c++ either writing pieces builit into fortran, or looking for libraries with the pieces. I think I switched when i couldn't find a max(), and couldn't figure out the single example of writing a function with variable number of arguments (actually, i used smalltalk for a while in between, but that's another story). Also, the bit on needing to define new classes for array bounds checking, rather than a compiler switch, was maddening . . . rick -- R E HAWKINS rhawkins@iastate.edu These opinions will not be those of ISU until they pay my retainer.